Alex
11-06-2006, 02:08 PM
If you ever commuted to work in full leathers you probably discovered how much of a pain it is to change when you get there. A solution that I found are overpants - riding pants that fit over your jeans.
I'm sure you guys have experience with other brands, but I would like to recommend the Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants. I wear them every day and I love them. Below is an excellent review from WebBikeWorld.com.
I got mine for about $180 from Santa Clara Cycle store.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6339/front300her8.jpg
Note: They aren't as shiny as they look on this picture. At least mine aren't.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Jacket & Pants
http://www.webbikeworld.com/joe-rocket/
Is this the Swiss Army Knife of motorcycle clothing? That's the analogy that kept coming to mind as I peeled away the layers of Joe Rocket's interesting new Alter Ego outfit.
Frequent webBikeWorld visitors will know that we've been skeptical about motorcycle clothing that claims to offer multi-season protection from the elements.
The temperature and weather extremes that motorcycle riders experience have made it hard to find that single jacket and pants combination that will work throughout the year. Jackets that keep a rider warm in the winter are, for the most part, too confining in the summer.
The result is a fragmented market for motorcycle clothing, with products that work best only in a very narrow range of temperatures and conditions. For example, Joe Rocket has been a leader in hot weather riding gear with their very popular Phoenix jacket (and pants), and other companies like REV'IT! offer some of the best cold and wet weather motorcycle clothing available.
But we figured that sooner or later, technology would give us the Holy Grail: a single motorcycle riding outfit that's flexible enough to provide comfort in all conditions while also offering decent protection in case of a fall.
The Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket and pants combination come about as close to that goal as current technology will allow. The concept was to provide the owner with the ability to add or remove sections of the jacket and pants to compensate for various temperature and weather conditions.
Although the Alter Ego outfit looks like yet another Joe Rocket take on a short jacket/pants riding outfit, the difference is that the "Rock Tex 660" fabric sections of the Alter Ego's jacket and pants can be un-zipped and removed, revealing a Phoenix-like mesh underneath that offers plenty of air flow. Joe Rocket calls this their "Meta Sport" system, and apparently they have a patent pending on the design.
Both the jacket and pants have full-length zip-in liners, which provide additional protection from wind and are claimed to be 100% waterproof.
All of this would be moot without comfort and safety, but the Alter Ego pair also scores in this regard. Manufacturers have come a long way with nylon-like textiles, and both the jacket and pants are soft and comfortable. The jacket includes some relatively hefty soft padding on the elbows, shoulders and back.
And there's a bonus: the elbow and the back padding are duplicated in the jacket liner, with removable and somewhat stiffer padding backing up the non-removable pieces in the jacket's shell. This gives, in effect, a double layer of padding but without noticeable bulk.
The pants have padding in the knees only, but it's removable and is placed in back of the thicker abrasion-resistant Rock Tex 1050 material on the outside of the knee and shin area.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket, showing liner and removable sections
Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket, rear view with backpack
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Jacket
The Alter Ego jacket can be assembled in several different configurations to suit whatever riding conditions the owner may experience. With practice, the jacket (or pants) can be quickly converted by removing the entire red colored solid panel that covers the front and back of the jacket.
The removable section is held to the jacket with two heavy zippers in the front and two more smaller (and nearly invisible) zippers that run along the sleeves in front and back.
I don't think it's possible or advisable to perform the conversion while wearing the jacket, but that's not really an issue. With practice, the entire process takes less than one minute.
This leaves the black area (photo left) on the shoulders and running down the arms as the only solid (i.e., non-mesh) fabric on the jacket and reveals an open mesh that looks like it was lifted directly from the Joe Rocket Phoenix all-mesh clothing line.
The full length internal liner can also be removed from the jacket. The liner connects with zippers and it has snap connectors behind the shoulders and in the wrist area to hold it in place. The manufacturer claims (via a tag attached to the jacket) that the liner is "100% waterproof".
The jacket has an 8" (~20 cm) zipper for attachment to the Alter Ego pants. Most of the Joe Rocket clothing line uses this standardized 8" zipper, allowing various types of jackets and pants to be used together.
The liner cuffs are somewhat different than the type normally found on this style jacket; they use elastic at the ends, which apparently is designed to help prevent moisture intrusion in wet weather. The elastic pulls on the owner's wrist when the jacket is put on or taken off, so we think it would have been better to have a second snap at the wrist to hold the cuff in place.
The mesh jacket "module" has two slash pockets, accessible through zippered openings on the outer removable panel, or directly when the panel is removed. Each pocket is about 14 cm (5-1/2") wide and about 16 cm (6-1/4") deep. A pocket of about the same dimensions is located underneath the jacket's left breast just inside of the main zipper, making it handy for storing a wallet.
The outer removable panel and liner can be stuffed into a very light nylon backpack that comes with the Alter Ego jacket. The backpack is roughly 28 cm (11") wide and 35.5 cm (14") long with a zipper across the top (or bottom, it doesn't matter how it's worn) and it has two adjustable nylon web straps. It makes a decent storage sack for the removable bits, whether it's worn as intended or placed in a tank bag or elsewhere.
In our experience, Joe Rocket clothing fits very close to advertised size, at least in the U.S. versions. The jacket in these photos is a men's size large, and it seems identical to a men's U.S. street jacket size of 44.
So basically what we have here is an "ultra" version of the Phoenix jacket -- with everything attached, the Alter Ego jacket provides good wind protection and warmth, with the added potential for protection against rain.
We haven't tried it in a strong downpour, but so far it's been acceptable during various light spring showers. Throw on a sweater or turtleneck underneath and the jacket also works well in colder weather. We've used it down to temperatures in the mid 40's (Fahrenheit) with no complaints.
Joe Rocket's marketing material claims that the Meta Sport system offers "wind cheating warm, air flowing cool, water-proof and modular". Other than the protruded grammar, we'd have to agree.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Pants
If the pants in these photos look slightly large, that's because they are. We ordered the size XL because we're so used to ordering one size up from normal to get motorcycle clothing that fits. We were surprised yet again to find that Joe Rocket clothing runs true to size. We're not complaining - it's good to know that not all motorcycle clothing fits like it was made for a runway model.
The size XL Alter Ego pants would probably work best for a men's size 37/38 waist and 31/32 inseam. We have a size large on order as a replacement.
The pants have a removable panel section that starts just above the knees and continues across the back. The zippers can be seen in the photo (left) as the two lighter colored lines starting at knee length and moving towards the back of the pants. The animated photo at the top of this page has one frame that shows the model holding the removable pants panel in his hands.
The Alter Ego pants are made from Rock Tex 660 with Rock Tex 1050 reinforcements in the knees. The pants also have a full-length removable and (claimed) waterproof liner. They're comfortable to wear in a wide range of temperatures, but we do notice some moisture buildup when the liner is in place.
The liner also uses elastic at the ankles, but the liner cuffs are not attached to the pants, which seems to be a design oversight. Whenever the pants are removed, the elastic on the ankle holds the liner on the leg as it's being removed and the liner turns inside-out. This makes the pants more difficult to remove than they should be.
The pants are also comfortable without the waterproof liner, and they have a soft mesh non-removable lining sewn inside, which does help by providing some space for air flow around the legs. Most of the "clammy" feeling that one gets in motorcycle clothing occurs when the garment directly touches the skin, so an extra fabric liner or cotton undergarment usually helps.
Each pant leg has a very long side zipper that opens to about 67 cm (26-1/2"), which makes it easier to enter the pants or to fit the leg over riding boots. The pants have an adjustable waist; there are Velcro tabs on either side and a strap that runs through a D-ring which can be adjusted over a fairly wide range. Even though the pants are about two waist sizes big for me, I am able to snug them up with the waist adjusters with no problems.
The pants have two external slash pockets, closed with zippers. Each is about 14 cm (5-1/2") wide and about 16 cm (6-1/4") deep.
The Alter Ego pants offer good air flow when the panel is removed, but they have only minimum padding and the liner holds some moisture. Our opinion is that the pants aren't really as revolutionary as the jacket. When the weather heats up, we'll try the Alter Ego jacket with the Joe Rocket Blaster leather perforated pants, which should prove to be a good combination.
Conclusion
The Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket and pants outfit provides a good solution for a reasonable, all-season motorcycle riding suit. There are some compromises in the design because the various zippers and panels add complexity, but there's probably no way around this while still offering the versatility to work in conditions ranging from complete blocking of wind and rain to full and open air flow in hot weather.
This could probably be the ideal complete riding suit for motorcyclists whose resources won't allow owning separate outfits for hot weather, cold weather, rain and various points in between. It would also make a great suit for motorcycle touring, where weather extremes of all types can be experienced in a single day. :D
I'm sure you guys have experience with other brands, but I would like to recommend the Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants. I wear them every day and I love them. Below is an excellent review from WebBikeWorld.com.
I got mine for about $180 from Santa Clara Cycle store.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6339/front300her8.jpg
Note: They aren't as shiny as they look on this picture. At least mine aren't.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Jacket & Pants
http://www.webbikeworld.com/joe-rocket/
Is this the Swiss Army Knife of motorcycle clothing? That's the analogy that kept coming to mind as I peeled away the layers of Joe Rocket's interesting new Alter Ego outfit.
Frequent webBikeWorld visitors will know that we've been skeptical about motorcycle clothing that claims to offer multi-season protection from the elements.
The temperature and weather extremes that motorcycle riders experience have made it hard to find that single jacket and pants combination that will work throughout the year. Jackets that keep a rider warm in the winter are, for the most part, too confining in the summer.
The result is a fragmented market for motorcycle clothing, with products that work best only in a very narrow range of temperatures and conditions. For example, Joe Rocket has been a leader in hot weather riding gear with their very popular Phoenix jacket (and pants), and other companies like REV'IT! offer some of the best cold and wet weather motorcycle clothing available.
But we figured that sooner or later, technology would give us the Holy Grail: a single motorcycle riding outfit that's flexible enough to provide comfort in all conditions while also offering decent protection in case of a fall.
The Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket and pants combination come about as close to that goal as current technology will allow. The concept was to provide the owner with the ability to add or remove sections of the jacket and pants to compensate for various temperature and weather conditions.
Although the Alter Ego outfit looks like yet another Joe Rocket take on a short jacket/pants riding outfit, the difference is that the "Rock Tex 660" fabric sections of the Alter Ego's jacket and pants can be un-zipped and removed, revealing a Phoenix-like mesh underneath that offers plenty of air flow. Joe Rocket calls this their "Meta Sport" system, and apparently they have a patent pending on the design.
Both the jacket and pants have full-length zip-in liners, which provide additional protection from wind and are claimed to be 100% waterproof.
All of this would be moot without comfort and safety, but the Alter Ego pair also scores in this regard. Manufacturers have come a long way with nylon-like textiles, and both the jacket and pants are soft and comfortable. The jacket includes some relatively hefty soft padding on the elbows, shoulders and back.
And there's a bonus: the elbow and the back padding are duplicated in the jacket liner, with removable and somewhat stiffer padding backing up the non-removable pieces in the jacket's shell. This gives, in effect, a double layer of padding but without noticeable bulk.
The pants have padding in the knees only, but it's removable and is placed in back of the thicker abrasion-resistant Rock Tex 1050 material on the outside of the knee and shin area.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket, showing liner and removable sections
Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket, rear view with backpack
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Jacket
The Alter Ego jacket can be assembled in several different configurations to suit whatever riding conditions the owner may experience. With practice, the jacket (or pants) can be quickly converted by removing the entire red colored solid panel that covers the front and back of the jacket.
The removable section is held to the jacket with two heavy zippers in the front and two more smaller (and nearly invisible) zippers that run along the sleeves in front and back.
I don't think it's possible or advisable to perform the conversion while wearing the jacket, but that's not really an issue. With practice, the entire process takes less than one minute.
This leaves the black area (photo left) on the shoulders and running down the arms as the only solid (i.e., non-mesh) fabric on the jacket and reveals an open mesh that looks like it was lifted directly from the Joe Rocket Phoenix all-mesh clothing line.
The full length internal liner can also be removed from the jacket. The liner connects with zippers and it has snap connectors behind the shoulders and in the wrist area to hold it in place. The manufacturer claims (via a tag attached to the jacket) that the liner is "100% waterproof".
The jacket has an 8" (~20 cm) zipper for attachment to the Alter Ego pants. Most of the Joe Rocket clothing line uses this standardized 8" zipper, allowing various types of jackets and pants to be used together.
The liner cuffs are somewhat different than the type normally found on this style jacket; they use elastic at the ends, which apparently is designed to help prevent moisture intrusion in wet weather. The elastic pulls on the owner's wrist when the jacket is put on or taken off, so we think it would have been better to have a second snap at the wrist to hold the cuff in place.
The mesh jacket "module" has two slash pockets, accessible through zippered openings on the outer removable panel, or directly when the panel is removed. Each pocket is about 14 cm (5-1/2") wide and about 16 cm (6-1/4") deep. A pocket of about the same dimensions is located underneath the jacket's left breast just inside of the main zipper, making it handy for storing a wallet.
The outer removable panel and liner can be stuffed into a very light nylon backpack that comes with the Alter Ego jacket. The backpack is roughly 28 cm (11") wide and 35.5 cm (14") long with a zipper across the top (or bottom, it doesn't matter how it's worn) and it has two adjustable nylon web straps. It makes a decent storage sack for the removable bits, whether it's worn as intended or placed in a tank bag or elsewhere.
In our experience, Joe Rocket clothing fits very close to advertised size, at least in the U.S. versions. The jacket in these photos is a men's size large, and it seems identical to a men's U.S. street jacket size of 44.
So basically what we have here is an "ultra" version of the Phoenix jacket -- with everything attached, the Alter Ego jacket provides good wind protection and warmth, with the added potential for protection against rain.
We haven't tried it in a strong downpour, but so far it's been acceptable during various light spring showers. Throw on a sweater or turtleneck underneath and the jacket also works well in colder weather. We've used it down to temperatures in the mid 40's (Fahrenheit) with no complaints.
Joe Rocket's marketing material claims that the Meta Sport system offers "wind cheating warm, air flowing cool, water-proof and modular". Other than the protruded grammar, we'd have to agree.
Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants
Joe Rocket Alter Ego Pants
If the pants in these photos look slightly large, that's because they are. We ordered the size XL because we're so used to ordering one size up from normal to get motorcycle clothing that fits. We were surprised yet again to find that Joe Rocket clothing runs true to size. We're not complaining - it's good to know that not all motorcycle clothing fits like it was made for a runway model.
The size XL Alter Ego pants would probably work best for a men's size 37/38 waist and 31/32 inseam. We have a size large on order as a replacement.
The pants have a removable panel section that starts just above the knees and continues across the back. The zippers can be seen in the photo (left) as the two lighter colored lines starting at knee length and moving towards the back of the pants. The animated photo at the top of this page has one frame that shows the model holding the removable pants panel in his hands.
The Alter Ego pants are made from Rock Tex 660 with Rock Tex 1050 reinforcements in the knees. The pants also have a full-length removable and (claimed) waterproof liner. They're comfortable to wear in a wide range of temperatures, but we do notice some moisture buildup when the liner is in place.
The liner also uses elastic at the ankles, but the liner cuffs are not attached to the pants, which seems to be a design oversight. Whenever the pants are removed, the elastic on the ankle holds the liner on the leg as it's being removed and the liner turns inside-out. This makes the pants more difficult to remove than they should be.
The pants are also comfortable without the waterproof liner, and they have a soft mesh non-removable lining sewn inside, which does help by providing some space for air flow around the legs. Most of the "clammy" feeling that one gets in motorcycle clothing occurs when the garment directly touches the skin, so an extra fabric liner or cotton undergarment usually helps.
Each pant leg has a very long side zipper that opens to about 67 cm (26-1/2"), which makes it easier to enter the pants or to fit the leg over riding boots. The pants have an adjustable waist; there are Velcro tabs on either side and a strap that runs through a D-ring which can be adjusted over a fairly wide range. Even though the pants are about two waist sizes big for me, I am able to snug them up with the waist adjusters with no problems.
The pants have two external slash pockets, closed with zippers. Each is about 14 cm (5-1/2") wide and about 16 cm (6-1/4") deep.
The Alter Ego pants offer good air flow when the panel is removed, but they have only minimum padding and the liner holds some moisture. Our opinion is that the pants aren't really as revolutionary as the jacket. When the weather heats up, we'll try the Alter Ego jacket with the Joe Rocket Blaster leather perforated pants, which should prove to be a good combination.
Conclusion
The Joe Rocket Alter Ego jacket and pants outfit provides a good solution for a reasonable, all-season motorcycle riding suit. There are some compromises in the design because the various zippers and panels add complexity, but there's probably no way around this while still offering the versatility to work in conditions ranging from complete blocking of wind and rain to full and open air flow in hot weather.
This could probably be the ideal complete riding suit for motorcyclists whose resources won't allow owning separate outfits for hot weather, cold weather, rain and various points in between. It would also make a great suit for motorcycle touring, where weather extremes of all types can be experienced in a single day. :D