Who's going to win in the next UFC?

I say Monson takes Silvia by submission and Houghs takes GSP by ground and pound.

Hughes is a beast and a super smart fighter...I'd put my money with him.

Don’t like Silvia, he is a lunk, only good when the stars align and gets a lucky shot, so I’ll take anyone over him.

For what it’s worth, I've honestly not really watch many of the fights since the rules changes and the inevitable development of the "Ground N Pound" strategy. Used to enjoy seeing Gracy take down much bigger guys and Sham-Rock (as the joke he has become) actually use martial arts to fight with.

When is the fight...?

Monson definitely. That guy is a BEAST!.

My money is on Matt Hughes, but I'm not so sure. I'd like to see Hughes win, but it is going to depend on how good his opponents defense is against Hughes' grappling skills. I'm kind of worried that his opponent is just a better "all-around" fighter and is going to end up keeping Hughes on his feet. If that happens...Hughes can kiss his title goodbye...

Houghs beat GSP easily the first time. I don't think it's going to be much different next time around. There is no way GSP can stop his take down and Houghs has quality Jiu-jitsu. GSP is only a purple belt.

I agree about Silvia. I think he's a big gump on steriods (really they tested him and found some). I think once Monson gets a clinch it's all over. BUT, if Monson tries to act like Tito and punch with him then he could fall pray to a quick jab followed by a big right hand to seal the deal.

The fight is saturday. www.ufc.tv

I liked the older style vs style fights too. If you want to see more skill in the fights watch Pride. They have the best guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXM9J10IfSw
This cat is the best grappler right now. When he gets into MMA he's going to be awsome.

yeah, think pride fighters are more skilled as well

For the UFC, the "no activity" rule time period is just too short for almost anyone to get something going on the ground. I understand it in the TV viewer mindset but think it just way too short. But all that's happened is it's turned into big guys that try to win by pounding the piss out of their opponent.
That Jacare guy is explosive, good stuff.

I agree about the no action rule. In Pride the Japanese understand the game a little better I think, so they let them go a while longer.

I'm glad the UFC changed the rule about checking cuts. They used to restart on the feet, but now they start them back from the same position.

I think the cage has a lot to do with it too. People like Tito can't win without a cage to smush people in. In pride you see a lot more sweeps and reversals because if you get near the ropes they will reastart you in the center.

Tito is going to fight Chuck again. Who do you think will win?

I think it's all up to Tito. If he fights smart he can win. He needs to back Chuck into the cage then take him down. If he tries to prove his punching skills like last time he's going to get knocked out again.

I was wrong about the last two matches :lol: Good thing I'm not a betting man.

i do believe Tito is a better athlete but just straight up fighting
i'd have to say Liddell. Liddell is pretty much a one or two trick
pony but damn can that trick get you knocked the F out!!

I'm sure Liddell ain't trying to roll on the ground with Tito but
i'm sure he has at the very least some rudimentary ground
assault and defense and i think he has more heart than Tito.

1 for Liddell.

Corey

Here's the Pride card Fight Card (http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/index_new_temp.php) There's some audio so turn down the volume if you're at work.

I want Hunt to win, but with his limited ground skills I don't think he can beat Fedor.

Fedor is smart, he will take him down. If for some reason he doesn't then there's no way he can knock out Hunt.

Who's going to watch the UFC this saturday?

The card doesn't look too good, but I think Rampage will beat that other guy.

What I'd really like to see is the next event where Randy comes back and fights Silvia. I think Randy will beat that fat gump.

i love ufc but dont know the names of all the guys just like to see them beat each other :bash

Yeah, Jacare is the man, but he couldn't submit randy couture when they recently competed against each other.

Crocop will soon be the ufc hw champ...I don't see anyone in the ufc challenging him..unless Fedor makes the jump..Crocop is just the shot in the arm the ufc hw division needed..

Agreed. I almost hope Randy doesn't beat Silvia because I don't want to see Randy get destroyed by CroCop.

Right now I really hope Rampage stomps Chuck because I really hate Chuck.

Damn, I lucked out..just watched 4 hrs of bodog fights in St. Petersburg Russia..I have to check Sherdog, but either The Emelianenko's (Fedor & Alexander) have left Pride, or Pride is letting them fight for Bodog Fights.

If this is true, I have to think that Pride has taken a big hit with the loss of the Emelianenko's and crocop.

Steve
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It all started when the Yakuza was linked to pride. That caused them to lose some big sponsors and got them booted off PPV.

White saw the opportunity and picked up all the good Pride guys. I think it's better for the sport to have at least two big players but it looks like the UFC is going to be the only game in town soon.

So, it is true that Fedor & company have left pride? Imagine if Dana and the boy's picked them up for the ufc? Oh my..The ufc would have a serious hw division with them and crocop.

Steve
05 st3
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Do any of you have showtime? They started a new league called exc
(elite extreme combat or som'n like dat) but it actually wasn't too bad
for a first run. Some decent skills were displayed. I must say it was
very ufc-ish: octagonal ring, same rules, same refs, and some of the
same fighters.

i use to enjoy pride fc quite a bit. i always thought the fighters were
tougher and the rules allowed for a little more brutality :twisted: .
But i love to see some of those guys jump ship and fight ufc. I think
crocop is already signed, rampage is signed, and i'm still waiting to
see Liddell v. Wanderlei Silva.

ufc would never be the only game in town. There are others out
there right now who may not be as financially sound but the fights
and techniques are very good. Just as ufc came and filled a void
others will build on and make it better. Besides everybody and they
mama thinks they can fight now and got a "ground game." there'll
never be a shortage of testosteronies going for it!

I haven't heard of the EXC but I have seen the IFL. They have their regular fights on Fox Sports and the big ones are pay per view. Recently they had Frank Shamrock fight Renzo Gracie. Renzo one after Frank used an illigal knee to the back of the head and Renzo couldn't continue.

Well there must be some sharing of programming then because
that exact fight was on Showtime EXC!!! along with about 4 other fights.

yea i thought that particular fight was wack. The fouls were intentional
and maybe renzo played the dramatics up a bit, maybe not. It's a
dangerous strike regardless. maybe it's hype to lead up to a rematch(ppv).

Couture will own Sylvia March 3!!!!!

shit there is no more pride??? WTF....I like their rules better cause it was more about skill compared to ufc where folks push one another up against the fence and used strengh instead of skill

just went to the pfc site and they are still up and running damn I missed the last one and it seemed to be a good one too with several upsets...next one is in the beginning of april

Yeah I saw the last Pride. I don't think they are going under but they arn't going to be number 1 anymore.

I'm going to a buddy's house tonight to watch the UFC. I hope the gump goes down. Go RANDY!!!! :D

I think it's great that Randy beat the hell out of Tim. I'm not taking anything away from Sylvia, but all he has is a little bit of stand up and a lot of size. He is lanky and has no ground game. Randy just totally dominated him, stand up and on the ground. Good for him, but he's gonna need a lot more when he fights Crocop (or however you spell it). I was a little disappointed that Matt Hughes had a little trouble with Lytle. He shouldn't have let it go to a decision, although he clearly won it.

Houghs is a little too relaxed in the ring now, but, he went back to what put him on top and that's his wrestling skills. If he keeps that up he can beat GSP. Trying ot get the knock out was his mistake.

I'm really happy for Randy too. He should retire now and go out on top. I really don't want to see his head get kicked off by Crocop.

Yeah Randy just won championship, don't think he's gonna bow out
gracefully. He's a true warrior. I think he's awesome. Plus he
represents for us over the hill cats(i'm only 38 but all that rollin' around
and getting hit is a young man's game. once you turn 35 you get
nice shiny weapons) :twisted:

Hughes is still incredibly strong but he didn't impress me. He actually
hasn't really impressed me for a couple years. Most of his opponents
were not really on his level and i think he started believing his own
hype. He's had a couple classic matches like Carlos Newton, etc but
overall i dunno. GSP is an awesome fighter and was a better man that
night and i'm not sure Hughes has gotten over it yet. The rematch
should be great!! Hughes--great wrestler, very strong and GSP--excellent
striker very good all around. Classic matchup IMO. 8)

It was great watching GSP get pounded by Serra. Hughes and Serra should make for a good fight, if they let Hughes get a title shot next. I was extremely disappointed with the Sanchez-Koscheck fight. I thought it was going to be the fight of the night, but it turned out to be the worst. It seemed like they were both scared to make a move.

The best fight by far was the two hispanic dudes, Huerto and Garcia(?). They freaking brawled the entire three rounds. The lightweights have so much stamina and strong chins. Not a dull moment. I didn't expect Mike 'Quick' Swick to get pounded like he did, but you never know what's gonna happen.

I didn't bother getting that UFC because I figured GSP would win for sure.

I later saw the fight on youtube and the Mighty Midget looked much better than he did in the Ultimate Fighter.

I hate sanchez so I'm glad Koschek wone.

Houghs will destroy Serra easy.

Hughes will probably beat Serra but he shouldn't underestimate him.
Serra's got heart yo!! And i do think he has really improved as a fighter.
Alot of these MMA guys seem to get worse or just plateau with the same
skills and techniques. Serra trains hard and has kinda reinvented himself.
Plus he's not a new jack. He's been around a long time. But Hughes is
still a force. He needs some better striking skills and techniques tho'.
When GSP beat his ass it proved that just because you're a good
wrestler/grappler not every opponent is gonna roll with you. Somebody's
gonna counter your shoots and knock you the fuck out!!

I've been enjoying the IFL(team based) stuff alot lately. Alot of hungry
up and comers with good skills. Some good thumps indeed!!

Holy sh*t... That's all I can say... Cro Cop got knocked the f*ck out!!! I mean he got freaking rocked. I feel sure his knee and ankle hurt like hell the next day, the way his leg folded underneath his body... Not to mention the side of his head. Bisbing had a good fight, he just pounded that Elvis dude. Great stuff...

Holy sh*t... That's all I can say... Cro Cop got knocked the f*ck out!!! I mean he got freaking rocked. I feel sure his knee and ankle hurt like hell the next day, the way his leg folded underneath his body... Not to mention the side of his head. Bisbing had a good fight, he just pounded that Elvis dude. Great stuff...

That was definitely a crazy knockout! I wasn't expecting Cro Cop to go out like that. I assumed that if Gonzaga was going to win that it would be on the ground. Crazy stuff...

This thread is interesting because as I was reading it I was remembering all the upsets regarding some of the fight predictions.

Thats the thing that people don't understand about mma is that everyone is training for a more well rounded background. You don't have guys that only practice one disipline anymore. Yeah alot of guys in the UFC/Pride might have had a background in something but nowadays you have to train for it all.

The most recent upset was Gonzaga vs. CroCop wow what a right kick by Gonzaga. This is a classic example of how CroCop is kinda a one trick pony hes got that massive left kick and he's a great striker. Gonzaga was kept circling away from his power leg so he could never load that left leg up and fire a kick and when he did he took him down and rained elbows on him while CroCop was waiting for them to be stood back up. In pride they would have stood that up alot more quickly, but UFC they like to keep them going on the ground a bit longer provided there is some action. I think Gonzaga got lucky with that high kick to the head with the last 8 seconds remaining of the 1st round. CroCop was probably just looking to end the round and start over. Regardless I think Gonzaga was at a good start to winning that fight and he got kinda luck with that knockout but thats just they way it goes sometimes trying something risky pays off.

I've been training at a MMA Gym(Team Quest) for the last year. Its been alot of fun but something that i've realized is that in MMA there's alot more to the game then people think and alot of times these fights are really hard to predict. It's really about whos got the best game plan for the fight and then who actually is able to execute it.

I thought you guys might enjoy this clip of upsets

Clip of upsets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMYaXrkBkM)

I agree with most of what you said GOOse but sometimes as evidenced
in the Crocop fight, you can just get caught out there and knocked the
fcuk out. You can have all the game plan you want but if you make a
single mistake you risk getting floored. I train in gung fu as well and seen
alot of matches and there always seem to be intangibles. But you're
right one must definitely train to be be an all around fighter.
By the way I personally have never really been a Crocop fan. He's no
slouch but definitely one trick!!

Who do you guys like for the Liddell/Rampage fight? Should be quite
explosive. I really can't call it. If anyone can knock Chuck out, it's
Rampage. Chuck will need to leave everything in the ring!

Lets not forget that Rampage beat Chuck at a pride match in 2003.

YouTube video of said fight (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KoMzRLGukxA)

It will be interesting because this time it will be in the cage. I think the cage allows chuck to back up alot more than he could in the ring.

Chuck likes to back up and punch at the same time.

I think rampage can beat him if he presses on him like he did in the last fight.

I also think that Chuck is a much better fighter than he was in 2003.

Should be a good fight!

Poor Chuck!! KTFO. What a shitty fight. I'm also glad Leben lost again.
I just don't like the guy, and i think he sucks. There were a few good
fights. Looking forward to Couture v Gonzaga. And the prospect of
Pride champion Dan Anderson coming over to fight for the ligth heavy
weight belt whoever is holding it, whether it's Rampage or if Chuck gets
a rematch first and wins it back. Should be interesting.
It was pretty funny seeing that dude Houston Alexander(?) own the
"dean of mean" Jardine. He destroyed him with some good shots.
Pretty much a brawler but you can't underestimate these dudes.

I'm glad rampage won.

I think the UFC has been throwing Chuck people they know he can win against I'm not trying to take anything away from Chuck. But he's kinda a one trick pony hes gonna punch alot and sprawl and eventually knock you out. He's always backing up looking to catch you with a big hand when you come in. Rampage knows this thats why he was being patient and waited for chuck to come towards him towards him so he didn't charge in there with his hands down. Also Chuck has only submitted one person in his career. All of his other wins are TKO's KO's or decisions.

I really hope that Dan Henderson beats rampage. It will be interesting because they are both wrestlers who have heavy hands and they are friends with each other.

I dont' really like leben's style. I think if he was a bit more patient and didn't burn out so quickly he could use his heavy hands more usefully. He threw so many punches that were unneccesary. He trains from my gym. People say he's a machine on the ground and he's a great wrestler. Id like to see him change his game plan a bit more and I think he would be a great competitor.

Houston Alexander looked like an animal that tasted blood. He went crazy on Jardine. Jardine has probably never been hit like that before. Even after it was over he looked like they were gonna put the straight jacked back on him.

Over all it was a fun card to watch.

No disrepect to you gOOse or your gym or really to Leben for that matter for
saying that he sucks. He may be a cool person i just dont like his
fight techniques from what i've seen. They usually look quite sloppy but he's a character so i guess people like him.
I'd kinda like to see rampage hold the belt for a while and compete
with the shitload of light heavys drooling for a title shot.

None taken YEROC.


I think you're right people like to watch him probably because he was one of the original member of the UFC's ultimate fighter reality show. Each fight of his i have watched I haven't been impressed he's rather reckless with his style. Maybe that makes him fun to watch in some peoples eyes. I like to watch the extremely technical fighters personally. I just think its strange that he actually is amazing(from what i'm told) on the ground but he doesn't actually use it in his fights.

He's from our gym but he only trains with the team quest "team" practices so i've never got to grapple or spar with him. I also have been to a class where he taught the class. It's a big gym so you don't necessarly train with some of the guys that fight professionally, however they will teach class from time to time.

Funny story, my other coach i take private lessons with used to grapple with him all the time. He said that leben used to come in and grapple and you could tell what he was drinking the night before because he drank soo much that you could tell what he drank cause he sweat it out.

I'm intrigued. I would like to see his ground skills utilized in a match.
Maybe the problem is a little too much partying tho'. In a professional
arena he's fighting other professionals so maybe he should train a little
more seriously and he might be a contender. But you can't get shitfaced
the night before and expect to be on your A game. Shame, cos i've
heard there are some tuff fighters out of quest gym!! He should
represent a little better.

I just miss the Gracies. Used to date one of the nieces and got to meet Royce himself. They just always amazed me with their mat skills, not just individually, but even overall. Of course, my opinion may be a little biased ;).

/misses the old school UFC. Gracie. Severn. Shamrock was a punk though.

:drool mmmm brazillian chicks....oops sorry, i'm a married man, stop
it you fool!!!! :D

Yeah the gracies are awesome jiu jitsu technicians. I am more partial
to strikers personally. I like Renzo cos he seems like a cool guy but
Royce seems quite arrogant and i always thought he was trying to hurt
people unnneccesarily by continuing the submission move after the tap.
No respect. Yeah if you got a guy in a arm bar or kimora and they
refuse to tap then break his arm, etc. But when they tap let him go,
help him up and send him home to fight another day.

Looks like the next UFC is going to be free on TV. So who's going to win? Henderson or Rampage?

I think Henderson is better technically, on the ground and on his feet, but Rampage is stronger. In the end I thing Henderson will beat him because he has the conditioning and I think he will put Rampage on defence.

I also heard a rumor that dayna will disolve Pride after this fight, just because he can.

Henderson and rampage are both skilled fighters. But i will put money
on Rampage to win by KO. They are both good heavy strikers and
wrestlers, i just think ramp has a little more wild dog in him. Should be
fun tho'.

hey sweet, an MMA thread!

I thought Rampage vs Henderson was a good fight overall. A friend of mine kept complaining the whole time about the fight being boring. Just because a fight doesn't end in a knockout in the first round doesn't mean it's not a good fight.

The two were going back and forth the whole time, striking on the feet, takedowns, sprawls, controlling, submission attempts, ground and pounding, everything a good MMA fight should be. And as soon as they would get back on their feet, they would start sluggin away at one another.

The CroCop vs Kongo fight was such an incredible dissappointment. I hope Crocop won't leave the sport on such a low note, but i don't think Crocop's heart is really in it anymore. I guess he's got other crap to do, like fight terrorism or something... :roll:

http://iseerobots.com/images/8101-7816/f8871e7a_s.jpg

Shogun is fighting Forrest Griffin on the 22nd. Griffin is going to get brutalized! I don't understand, you would think that givien his popularity, the UFC would give him a fight to get back on his feet after that loss to Jardine. Oh well, it's about time the Pride fighters came in. With the recent signing of Wandy, it looks like we will finally get to see the superfight: Chuck Liddell vs Wanderlei Silva!

I want to f@ck... fight chuck: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W60S75zoPRo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W60S75zoPRo)

Who else is stoked for Hughes vs Serra!?

I've been having a string of good calls with these UFC bouts. My buds
keep doubtin' me and i keep takin their money. :D
I think Cro Cop is a one trick pony. Yeah that one trick will get you
ktfo, but other than that, blah. Kongo is not the most finessed fighter
but he is strong and can strike and he aint scared. If he adds some
ground game and tighten up his strikes a little he could definitely go
for a belt.
Houston Alexander is quite the brutal beast isn't he. I'm impressed.
2 UFC fights and two violent KOs of "made men". Keep an eye on him.
I can't wait for Hughes/Serra. Hughes is a great fighter and very strong
but i'm sorry i just don't like the guy. He always has that smirk on his
face and maybe he is really cool but he just comes across as full of
himself. Hughes may win this one but i'm puttin' my money on Serra.
Serra is definitely no slouch and he has heart. Should be good.
I was happy trhat Ramp won. I actually like Henderson but I didn't
want to see Ramp lose the belt so soon. And I think he's a diesel
fighter and a funny dude.

Crocop is only good if you're afraid of him. Get him to back up and he sucks, everytime.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the bisping hammel fight? That was the worst decision I've ever seen in a fight.

Shogun will destroy Forest.

Yeah bisping v hammel was disappointing. Talk about homefield advantage.
I think Hammel had the fight won but kind of sizzled out and he really
needed to win definitively. Them brits may have tore the place down if
the decision went to Hammel :lol:

Forest will be toast. I agree with you on that. What about Liddel/Jardine?

Jardine's gonna get knocked out in the first round. He's the sacrificial lamb for Liddell to get his groove back. At first I was upset that Jardine, coming off a big loss to Alexander, gets to fight Liddell but it makes sense now. I think the UFC realize's Jardine's limited potential so they're gonna put him in with Liddell while they try to push Houston Alexander.

I can't wait for Franklin vs Silva II! I dont have anything against Franklin, he seemes like a good guy, but I hope he gets demolished, again.

Also, Brandon Vera is fighting Tim Sylvia on that card as well. I see the fight with Vera knocking Sylvia to the ground with a combo of strikes and then submitting him. Sylvia is just a big ogre and nothing more.

first I wanna thank xyience...
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/3212/FranklinSilva131.jpg

Every Chuck Liddell fight I am always anti-chuck.

I hate his game plan.... All he does is backup and strike and defend takedowns. Sure he's got alot of high-light reel KO's but he doesn't use his ground game. Id like to see him shoot a takedown or submit someone. I'd also like to see him change his haircut.

I don't like the Dean of Mean either but I'm hoping he will have what it takes after coming off such a bad loss.

As far as Shogun vs. Griffin I think Shogun's got a standup game Griffin can't handle its going to be too intense and fast paced for Griffin. However if Griffin can stay on the outside and shoot in and throw some flurries he might be able to be effective, he doesn't want to trade with Shogun. If it goes to the ground Shogun definitely has the advantage.


Jon Fitch vs. Diego Sanchez id have to say Diego for this one, I haven't seen a lot of Fitch's fights but Diego is very versatile fighter.

this is a lil late, but...

Jardine soundly defeats Liddell!?

Forrest Griffin submits Shogun!?

What the hell is goin on!? I do have to say that Chuck Liddell is and was overrated, but c'mon! Jardine? Liddell's problem is that he makes absolutely no adjustments to his strategy. Even if he's the one who's gettin beat, he'll just continue to try and draw guys in so he can get that knockout punch.

Who the hell is Wanderlei Silva supposed to fight now? ... ok I guess there's plenty, but they brought him in with the explicit purpose of fighting Liddell.

Shogun definitely looked out of shape for this fight. by the second round he was gassing hard. Not to say that Griffin is any kind of pushover, in fact he's quite a tough guy with alot of heart, but this is Shogun we're talkin about! Now I'm not one of those "Pride's better than UFC in every way" type guys but Shogun is supposed to be in another class than guys like Griffin. I dunno, maybe i'm just not giving credit where it's due.

At least I can count on Anderson Silva pulverizing Franklin for a second time. :twisted:

MMA is good because you never really can guess the outcome 100%.
Anything can happen.
One thing i do know now...Pride fighters for the most part are getting
owned when they come to the Octagon. How many has it been now?
Big heralded Pride fighters*ominous music plays* with brutal hi lite
reels and all these wars and step in the octagon and get ktfo in the
first round. Sheesh!

Just wait till Fedor comes. He's unstopable.

Fedor is getting old. Too many wars. How many fights do you think
he really has left. Look at Crocop.

Fedor is like 31 years old. Now I'm not sayin that's young, but I wouldn't say he's old.

Randy Couture has openly expressed his desire to fight Fedor. He said something like, "You know, I'm not getting any younger and I wanna fight the best, and right now Fedor is the best." C'mon Dana White! Make it happen!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9740/fedorgod0fa4mlcs4tu6.gif

Wow just read on a mma site that Couture will no longer be fighting
in the UFC. And UFC could not secure a contract with Fedor. Fedor will
be fighting for another organization. Couture said he only wanted to
continue to fight if he could fight Fedor. UFC is losing one of the elite,
yeah he's old but he's pure gladiator.

WHAT!? :shock: was my initial reaction, and after reading your post I myself checked out some articles.

I'm sure both White and Couture have legitimate complaints and concerns but Dana White is still kind of a dickhead.

Fedor signed with the new Russian-based M-1 organization. So since Couture resigned from the UFC and not MMA, hopefully that means he'll sign with M-1 and fight Fedor in that org.

It's just such a shame that so often because of politics and money, we don't get a chance to see certain matchups happen so we can find out who really is the best fighter in the world. But i guess that's not the worst thing that occurs in this world due to politics and money...

Update: I just wanted to point out that Randy Couture, one of MMA's most elite, was makin only $250,000 + bonuses per PPV in the UFC.

UPDATE: After Randy's press conference, it was revealed that he made $500,000 in PPV royalties from the Tim Sylvia fight. However, he's one of the very few guys who gets royalties. And it's still not much compared to what pro boxers are making.

In the old days that was a great purse, but now that MMA is bigger than boxing he should be getting a lot more. Rickson got a million from Pride last time he fought there. Randy should get at least that.

Once again I'm a little late with the comments about what's happenin' but...

Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell is official! With both fighters coming off big losses, it may be do or die for both their careers. They are facing off at UFC 79 along with co-main event Matt Hughes vs Matt Serra. I think it'll be a pretty damn good night of fighting! I say Wandy by KO early in round 3. And I hope Serra pulls another stunning upset and knocks out Hughes.

Also, Brrrock Lesnarrr has signed with the UFC and will be facing Frank Mir on Feb 2. I can't wait! Although everyone knows him from WWE, he's no joke. He was an NCAA championship wrestler. I was actually at the K-1 Dynamite! event at the LA Coliseum, which was Brock Lesnar's debut MMA fight. He pounded the hell out of a poor Korean - Min Soo Kim.

And of course Anderson Silva once again devastated Rich Franklin. Silva is just phemonemal. Right now the only person in the UFC who can give him any competition is Dan Henderson, who apparently is refusing to drop back down to 185.

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Hey guys. i hope you don't mind. im gonna have to join with this MMA talk. I love watching UFC fights my eyes are glued on the spike channel that is after I clean my precious 599.

Looking forward to see the Matt Hughes and Matt Serra... :clap bring it on SOON.

Brock Lesner. Pure brutal strength, should be interesting. I haven't
seen any of his mma fights. But he's quite the physical beast, i'm sure
he can do alot of damage. How do you knock out a guy with a neck
as big as your thigh?

If Frank Mir is in extreme shape and actually training, he'll have a
chance. He just hasn't impressed me since he broke Sylvia's arm.
Then he had that car accident and hasn't been right since.

I didn't see Mir's last fight, but he supposedly looked alot better. But yeah, it's too bad, I don't know if he'll ever fully recover from that moto accident to be the old Frank Mir again.

Here's Brock Lesnar's debut fight from K-1 Dynamite! [I like how Goldberg is one of the commentators :lol:]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQ1AyGUFsQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQ1AyGUFsQ)




Oh yeah, on a slightly separate note, anyone see Kimbo's fight against Mercer? Kimbo won by submission!? What is this world coming to?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWQn-Rvg-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWQn-Rvg-U)

I know all about losing because of submission. My older brother used to put me in the Figure Four, Boston Crab, and the goddam Guy Smiley all of the time. Whenever he'd say, "Let me show you a new wrestling move." I knew that was my ass. He stomped on my head twice. I fill steel it, too!!! I whipped HIS ass only once. But that was our LAST fight, and I guess that's what counts.

Kimbo sucks. That's all I got to say about that.

The spider silva will be on top for a long time. It's his accuracy. When you get hit so much it has a demorilizing effect and you don't throw as much. Then it snowballs from there.

I missed the silva franklin fight, but I know how it would end. :P

Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.

I think Anderson has the edge standing up. If Henderson takes Silva down I think he won't do much damage in his guard and Silva will escape to his feet.

Only way I see Dan winning is if he gets a take down with a position past his guard. There he can grind away and win rounds.

So I pick Anderson to win by KO by round 3.

Thoughts predictions?

Should be a good card. 3 Guys from my old gym(Team Quest) are on the UFC 82 Card.
Dan Henderson
Chris Wilson
Chris Leben

I really am hoping for Dan to beat Silva. I think its gonna be a war. Silva has amazingly brutal strikes. However I think Dan can avoid the clinch and don't underestimate dans striking ability.

If it gets down to the ground Dan will have the advantage. Anderson is really good at avoiding the takedown and even when he does get takendown he usually gets back to his feet.

It should be a good fight!

Evan Tanner is probably going to destroy Okami

I hope Chris Wilson wins its his UFC debut but they are throwing him at Jon Fitch who is an animal. Wilson has some dynamic striking and some great groundwork.

I hope leben knocks out sakara, but who knows whats really gonna happen.

I think Diego will win his fight.

I hate Leben, he epitomizes (or at least is presented as such) every negative stereotype of MMA fighters. Watchin him get demolished by Silva was very satisfying.

Anyways, although I am a huge fan of the Brazilian, A. Silva, I think Dan Henderson is one of the most under-recognized and under-appreciated fighters out there (at least in mainstream US mma fandom, which consists mostly of moronic, knuckle-dragging, meathead aggro's). I think "Hollywood" Henderson's style is perfectly matched to beat the kind of quick striker that Silva is. Henderson has that in-your-face aggression that has the potential to neutralize Silva's range and quickness. Also, I don't think Silva will be able manipulate an outstanding Greco-Roman wrestler like Henderson in the clinch like he has with Franklin.

I think this will be one of the greatest fights that we will see all year. I say Henderson by TKO in round 3.

Anyone remember Tank Abbott? I like the UFC but find that it's too highly technical now, as a former HS wrestler I can't help but admire the technique but find the action a little slow most of the time. The highlight reels are just too awesome though. I haven't been watching lately, maybe I should give it a go again.

Anyone remember Tank Abbott? I like the UFC but find that it's too highly technical now, as a former HS wrestler I can't help but admire the technique but find the action a little slow most of the time. The highlight reels are just too awesome though. I haven't been watching lately, maybe I should give it a go again.

As a former wrestler who them started doing MMA wrestling moves don't work on someone who knows BJJ. I mean the fundamentals translate very quickly and you learn how to adapt your game quicker than a guy with no wrestling skills at all. But you have to change how you use your takedowns and you have to learn how to fight off your back if you're put there.

The UFC is interesting some cards are alot better than others. Sometimes yeah its slow but sometimes even though its slow its a chess match in a ring. I usually try to watch it at a friends house or something and when you pitch in to get it's 5-10 bucks for a 3 hour show. The last card was good this next card is stacked but sometimes the best UFC events are the ones with no name fighters.

I really hope the Dan Henderson fight doesn't have an early knock out because i really want to see them go a few rounds and see where they compare to each other in different areas of the fight.

Leben, I've never liked how he chooses to fight I think he could be a lot more successful if he didn't throw wild punches and used some of his ground game but he's unpredictable and usually its a knockout when he fights, and thats why the UFC likes him, lets face it people want to see the knockouts and or people to get hurt. People who don't understand the sport don't care about submissions, but I think people are coming around. Nothing like a night where people come over to watch UFC fights get a few beers in them and think thai leg kicks don't hurt. After letting my friend whos 140lbs kick him in the which a nice thai style outside leg kick and not being able to walk without a limp for 3 days he respected leg kicks.

Oh and people who used to wrestle in highschool think they can grapple and they shoot in for a doubleleg and you get them in a anaconda choke is awesome. Its also funny how people who have never been chocked out react they start coughing and making funny noises when they really should just tap out.

I always happens some people as soon as you tell them you train at a fighting gym they want to fight or wrestle or test you in some way.

I love Tank, if he trained he would have got somewhere.

Chris L. is the biggest wuss ever. He peed on the bed of the weakest guy on the show. Yeah that proves how tough you are, you pick on the weakest guy then cry like a girl when you lose. If I ever meet him I'm going to choke him out and pee on his head.

There's going to be a UFC in Ohio that I thought about going to but it's $300 for the crappy seats so I think it's better just to stay home.

I was gonna go see UFC 83 right here in Montreal but they sold out in record time....It'll be cheaper just to watch it like always, at home. <- the beer's better there too ;) I was looking forward to watching all the undercard fights that sometimes don't make it on air, but alas, My butt's gonna be on my couch. I enjoy the commentary too...Something else you miss out on at the live event.

I love Tank, if he trained he would have got somewhere.

Although I think Tank is a terrible fighter, i did always enjoy him for entertainment value in the old days of the UFC. His training regime consisted of going to bars and drinking before and after fights... how can you not love (or love to hate) that?

But he is of the old days when they would bring in numerous ppl who were just pure bar-room brawlers or had no knowledge, much less experience, of any of the other styles of martial arts outide of their own.

Tank is going to get killed by Kimbo.

I'm not sayin Kimbo is the real deal or anything, but he is training with former UFC Hvywt Champ, Bas Rutten. But he's gotta fight better fighters than ppl like Tank Abbott if we're gonna see if Kimbo has any chance against higher level competition.

Kimbo vs Mercer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJX87j4agd4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJX87j4agd4)

I just saw the Kimbo/Tank fight and as predicted Kimbo knocked him out in the first round. (it was on youtube yesterday, may not be there now)

It was funny looking at his record as he was comming out he was 1 and 0 with 1 submission :lol: Does that make him a submission expert?

I think he should fight Minataro for the belt.

It was funny looking at his record as he was comming out he was 1 and 0 with 1 submission :lol: Does that make him a submission expert?

I dunno why the Kimbo/Mercer (Kimbo via guillotine choke) fight is not in the official books, but if you count that fight, Kimbo had 2 submissions coming into the fight with Tank. The other guy, Beau Cantrell, submitted due to strikes!

So now Kimbo's fights end by him submitting his opponent over 66% of the time! :P

I wanna see Brock Lesnar vs Kimbo! two freaks of nature with limited MMA experience... would not exactly be a great display of martial arts skill and prowess, but would nonetheless be an incredibly entertaining fight!

If that fight were ever to happen tho, I'm pretty sure Lesnar would take Kimbo down with relative ease and eventually... EVENTUALLY pound Kimbo's thick skull into a TKO.

Frank Shamrock vs. Cung Le
Strikeforce middleweight championship, Mar 29.

Who ya going for?
Shamrock is a highly skilled tactician with more ring experience than Le
(pronounced Lee). Le is a sanshou/sanda phenom and could vindicate
sanshou and really put it on the map. He is very strong and dynamic.
Should be a great fight. My money is on Cung Le by KO.

I'm soooooo glad Le is going into MMA. I hate him more than any fighter I've ever seen fight. He never fights anyone good.

Shamrock will win by ref stoppage in the first round due to strikes from the mounted position.

I missed this thread, I can't believe tank abbot was still fighting, I need to check out that video. He was out of shape 10 years ago, I'm suprised he could still get in the ring. Bet he looks good these days, LOL...

Boo-yaa bitches.
Yes, I am going around to all my friends to rub in the fact that i once
again have predicted the winner.
I'm sure guys like Steve still won't give Cung his due. What's it gonna be
now? Shamrock is old, right? Whatever :lol: .
Shamrock got beat the eff up, point blank. And i would state from
my close observation of the fight that Shamrock was quite hurt from
repeated, unblocked kicks to the body before his arm was broken.
Hopefully Cung quieted some. He was extremely precise with his strikes
and a game competitor who was not scared of Frank. It was a great
fight and i take nothing away from Shamrock. I like him, just didn't
think he would beat Cung.

I didn't see the fight but it seems like Frank tried to box with him. I don't know why but for some reason once grapplers get somewhere they try to turn into kickboxers when that's not what got them to the top.

Frank was the champ back when there were sumo guys in the UFC. He's old and hasn't fought in a long time.

Sorry, Lee is still a flaming homo and when he fights a real fighter that will drop him on his head then he'll be done.

Exactly what i thought you'd say as did my other buddies who watched the
fight and were anti-Le.
"Shamrocks old, hasn't fought in a few months, he tried to stand up with a
striker, Le will lose when he fights a REAL fighter"
...BBBOOOOO!!!
Frank is arrogant but he's a warrior and he chose to stand up. He could
have shot in anytime. He had clinch opportunities and all but you're
forgetting that regardless of what people think of Cung he CAN fight.
I like him. He's not an asshole or shit talker, pure "gong sau"(talk with
hands).
He's champ now, so i'm sure he'll have plenty opportunity to prove
himself.

Frank was the champ back when there were sumo guys in the UFC.
I think you're thinking of Ken Shamrock.

Frank's debut in the UFC came later than his brother Ken's did, and he fought guys like Jeremy Horn and Tito Ortiz.

He's old and hasn't fought in a long time
Frank Shamrock fought Renzo and Cesar Gracie in 2006 and then fought Phil Baroni in 2007. I will say Shamrock is obviously past his prime, but that's not the reason he lost. He lost cuz he lets his showmanship and arrogance get in the way of being an effective fighter at times. In the 3rd round, he had a chance to put away Le but was too busy taunting him. And Shamrock stated publicly before the fight that he was going to, "Beat Le at his own game." ...Famous last words...

I'm not "Anti-Le" or saying that he is weak, but he is by no means an elite MMA fighter.

I saw the fight online yesterday. Frank was doing pretty good actually. He had so many opportunities to take Le (the flaming homo) down and beat the crap out of him. All those high kicks he threw were perfect set ups for a takedown.

I also saw some of the fights from the UFC on Wed. I thought it was so cool (and lucky) how Diaz caught that black belt in a triangle then gave him the double bird before choking him out.

I agree Leatherwings that Le is not quite an elite MMA guy. But with
that said, the nature of the sport includes so many intangibles that i'm
not quite sure what the criteria is for "elite". Anybody can get KTFO at
any time in these matches. Seen it time and time again as I'm sure
you guys have. I guess if you make it to the professional level, you're
pretty much elite. There are a million and one amateurs who can rassle
or cold cock a fool. Le is an elite sanshou fighter, no doubt, but has to
improve his hand game and grappling. I was not impressed with his
hands at all. But his kick precision was good as was his footwork.
I take nothing away from Frank and i know it's easy to sit behind a
computer or tv and say he should'a, would'a, could'a did this or that or
this guy sucks or whatever. But the amount of training it takes to get
to this level IMO makes them all elite in the context of "sport fighting".

So it's GSP vs. the Mighty Midget.

I want Matt to win again because GSP sucks, but I don't think it will happen. I already know YeroC will be rooting for GSP because he loves gay fighters (and he secretly wants to oil up Le's manboobs before his fights) :lol:

Watching Matt KO GSP the first time was like watching Rocky2 in real life. He's got a lot of heart and I hope he does it again!

:lol: :lol:
Actually Le prefers maple syrup. But that's as far as it goes. Only the
man boobs. :shock:
But seeing how much you revere dudes rasslin' and grapplin in their
skivvies, it's pretty safe to say you long to be submitted by Matt, except
you won't tap because you love the closeness and security in the arms
of one stronger than thou. :D
Actually i'm not a big fan of GSP. Just glad he KO Hughes because he's
such a pompous prick and i hope he KO him again. But i'm sure this
time Hughes will go right to the hugging and touchy feely stuff.

So it's GSP vs. the Mighty Midget.

I want Matt to win again because GSP sucks, but I don't think it will happen. I already know YeroC will be rooting for GSP because he loves gay fighters (and he secretly wants to oil up Le's manboobs before his fights) :lol:

Watching Matt KO GSP the first time was like watching Rocky2 in real life. He's got a lot of heart and I hope he does it again!

I can't believe you think GSP sucks.... He is an amazing fighter hes extremely well rounded. Hes got great striking he's got great ground game. He can take down wrestlers at will. I think hes the toughest guy today @ 170.

Look at the people he has wins over vs the people Serra has defeated.

GSP is going to outclass Serra make no mistake about it. He just got caught with a lucky punch over a year ago.

What really bugs me about Serra is that he's the UFC champ but he hasn't defended the title in a year. Yet he walks around like hes a badass. He punked out of the fight with Hues regardless of his injury being legit he hasn't had a fight in a year. He did act as a coach on the ultimate fighter and I wasn't really impressed with him all he did was say how Matt hues sucks and that Matt hues is a dick and what not. Which I kinda agree with I think Matt is kinda dick but it makes you look stupid if all you do is run your mouth all season.

Look at Serra's record..

9 Wins and 4 losses but he hasn't beaten anyone who really stands out to me except GSP.

Win Georges St. Pierre TKO (Punches) UFC 69 - Shootout 4/7/2007
Win Chris Lytle Decision (Split) UFC - Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale 11/11/2006
Loss Karo Parisyan Decision (Unanimous) UFC 53 - Heavy Hitters 6/4/2005
Win Ivan Menjivar Decision (Unanimous) UFC 48 - Payback 6/19/2004
Win Jeff Curran Decision (Unanimous) UFC 46 - Supernatural 1/31/2004
Loss Din Thomas Decision (Split) UFC 41 - Onslaught 2/28/2003
Loss B.J. Penn Decision (Unanimous) UFC 39 - The Warriors Return 9/27/2002
Win Kelly Dullanty Submission (Triangle Choke) UFC 36 - Worlds Collide 3/22/2002
Win Yves Edwards Decision (Majority) UFC 33 - Victory in Vegas 9/28/2001
Loss Shonie Carter KO (Spinning Back Fist) UFC 31 - Locked & Loaded 5/4/2001
Win Greg Melisi Submission (Armbar) VATV 11 - Vengeance at the Vanderbilt 11 2/24/2001
Win Jeff Telvi Submission (Guillotine Choke) VATV 7 - Vengeance at the Vanderbilt 7 1/29/2000
Win Graham Lewis Submission (Armbar)

GOOse, I sorta understand what you're sayin about Matt Serra not having fought in over a year, but I don't see how you can say him backing out of the fight due to a herniated disc in his vertebrae is "punking out." I think Matt Serra wants to fight Matt Hughes more than anyone else on the planet, so I think that fight will still happen regardless of the outcome of Serra Vs GSP.

Although I, for one, like Matt Serra, I think he will lose this one decidedly. So I'm really hopin' for that Serra - Hughes fight to happen!

I already know YeroC will be rooting for GSP because he loves gay fighters (and he secretly wants to oil up Le's manboobs before his fights) :lol:
But seeing how much you revere dudes rasslin' and grapplin in their
skivvies, it's pretty safe to say you long to be submitted by Matt, except
you won't tap because you love the closeness and security in the arms
of one stronger than thou. :D
Hey yeah Steve, yeroC's got a point. You're the one with vids of yourself rollin around on the ground with hot n' sweaty dudes in uncompromising positions! :hump :lol:

The man-love sessions w/ Super Sweaty Steve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GS_jacgSOI)

Friggin hilarious!!
Also to clarify, I misread and thought GSP was fighting Hughes again.
I do like Serra. He can beat GSP but whether he will again this time,
i'm not so sure. He's a warrior and has good skill but has some holes
in his game that i think GSP can capitalize on if he's not too anxious but
also doesn't wait too long. I think GSP is a better striker and has
better footwork and stamina but i think Serra has a slight edge in ground
game.
I'm gonna go with GSP this time by TKO. Serra will gas out if he doesn't
knock GSP out or submit him by the 3rd round. Championship bouts are
5 rounds.
And Goose, of your list of Serra wins, you don't think Yves Edwards
stands out? Yves is awesome. Not the best but i like to watch his fights.
And Serra beat him in '01. He's had some great fights and growth
since then.

You can't say GSP is better than BJ right now. BJ beat the crap out of him for three rounds even though BJ somehow lost that fight.

Matt Hughs is at the end of his career and GSP is at his peak. If this were five years ago Hughs would walk through him.

I'll give you that Serra isn't the best fighter, but he did knock GSP out and that proves that it's possible for him to do it again. Besides how can you root for a French guy over an American? I'm not so sure GSP would pass a piss test when it's his turn for a random screening.

And for the record, jiu-jitsu isn't the gayest sport. It's number two behind the 2 man looge.

GSP def Serra, ref stoppage due to strikes. nuff said.

GSP def Serra, ref stoppage due to strikes. nuff said.

GSP is still gay.

And for the next UFC BJ will beat up Sherk. I'm going to love to see that.

Told ya GSP was no joke.

I think BJ Penn is in the Top 5 all time MMA fighters. Hes just so damn good.

Ok BJ vs GSP. I watched the fight, yeah BJ was out striking him and that is very impressive but I don't think they will ever fight again. BJ Penn is at 155 now and hes looking very good.

Its impressive that BJ was fighting in the 170 class as he isn't that big of a guy and now that he has cut back down to 155 I don't think he can loose!

I hope he tears apart Sherk. Never liked Sherk hes kinda meat head wrestler that's hard to knock out. I think BJ can bring it to him! BJ in his last fight and as of late has had a whole new drive about him it will be exciting to see the upcoming fight!

Never liked Sherk either. Confirmed 'roid head. Booo!
BJ all the way.
Whenever you want to start betting some money Steve let me know. :wink:

I would have bet on GSP to win, but I"d also bet that someday he comes out of the closet. Did you see those shorts he was wearing? I bet you have a poster on your wall of that guy.

I think Sherk will have a hard time taking BJ down. BJ is just very flexable, even Houghs had a tough time taking him down. I see BJ doing some sprawl and brawl, maybe even doing a take down of his own in later rounds.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the skinny guy that was running away from Nate Quarry got kicked out of the UFC for that performance! That guy sucked anyway.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the skinny guy that was running away from Nate Quarry got kicked out of the UFC for that performance! That guy sucked anyway.

I read on a Sherdog forum thread (so who knows how accurate this is) that Kalib Starnes' (the skinny guy) UFC contract was up and that he fought, or didn't fight, the way he did in protest of the way the UFC was treating him (not paying for medical bills and so forth). If that's true, then couldn't he have come up with a better way of protesting rather than look like a complete coward in front of millions of viewers as well as his home-crowd audience?

That would make some sense. But it's a stupid move. His reputation is so bad now that his career as a fighter is over. No promoter will take a chance on him now.

BJ whooped his ass! I haven't seen it yet but read about it on sherdog.

Happened just how I predicted too!

I'm glad to see Wanderlei get a big knockout win! I hope he gets back on track to bein the brutal, high intensity fighter of a few years ago! He needs to have a rematch with Chuck and knock him out.

Hopefully Wanderlei wants to F#@k, I mean, fight Chuck again...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9iqBQdFcpA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9iqBQdFcpA)

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http://bp3.blogger.com/_8sapMW_W6ok/SDsEDLraLjI/AAAAAAAAAdU/RN0Fa5AXkWc/s400/61087.jpg

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Who's going to watch the last episode of The Ultimate Fighter?

I missed the fight where CB got armlocked. I would have loved to see that.

I also don't want to miss seeing that one guy get kicked off the show for kicking the window out of the limo. What an idiot!

Who's going to watch the last episode of The Ultimate Fighter?

I missed the fight where CB got armlocked. I would have loved to see that.

I also don't want to miss seeing that one guy get kicked off the show for kicking the window out of the limo. What an idiot!

I didn't see CB get arm barred by Amir. But I did see that dumbass Jesse get kicked off the show for being a dumbass.

I wish Tim would have beat CB cause I think that would have been an awesome matchup(Amir vs Tim)

Kinda sucks for Amir having to fight someone he already beat in the show. But I think it will be a good fight!

on another note anybody ever see Shinya Aoki fight? He fights in Dream as a lightwieght. He has some awesome BJJ and he just moves so quick and fast and smooth.

Aoki Compolation (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1q79x_shinya-aoki-mmagrappling-highlight_extreme)

Did anybody watch the Rampage/Griffin fight?? I didn't but i know Ramp
lost. I don't think he trained as hard as he could have. Too many
distractions and i think Forrest was hungrier. Good for Forrest. I like
them both but somebody had to lose. At least Ramp didnt get KO or
submitted. Fight went the distance, split decision i believe.

I hear Fedor is set to fight Sylvia. :roll: Silence of the Lamb???

I haven't got to watch the fight yet, but from what I hear is that forest was rocked in the first round rampage definitely won the first round. Then Forest won the second with a really devastating leg kick that slowed rampage down. Then the last three rounds really could have went any way.

I'd have to watch it to really give an opinion but it looks like they are gonna have a rematch which would be really exciting!

The Affliction Card looks pretty stacked.

Fedor vs Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski vs Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett vs Pedro Rizzo
Matt lindland vs Fabio Negao
Renato Sobral vs Mike Whitehead
ALeksander Emilianenko vs Paul Buentello
Antonio Nogueira vs Vernon White
Vitor Belford vs Terry Martin

I think the unanimous decision for Griffin was complete BS. One Judge scored it 49-46! WTF!? If not a draw, then Rampage won it 3 rounds to 2. Either way though, if you're the challenger you really have to take the title away from the champ with a DECISIVE win, which Forrest's performance was certainly not.

Although Jackson took some big leg kicks in the Second, he eventually recovered from them and was no longer phased by them in later rounds. throughout the entire fight, Rampage landed more effective, powerful punches that hurt Forrest. Whereas Griffin's real only significant damage was inflicted in the 2nd round by the leg kicks.

I smell Shady BS...

I think the UFC wants Forrest as the Champ cuz he is more popular and marketable, and Jackson has been somewhat of a dissappointment in terms of UFC's desire to surge his mainstream popularity and marketability.

Unfortunately, if it hasn't already, MMA may end up as dirty as boxing has become.

:cry:

Sounds probable to me LW. I'll be watching the fight in a couple days
to see with my own two. But i believe every word you say. Politics
fouls up everything don't it.

I doubt its some sort of Evil Plot...

The judges in MMA Suck..... A lot of them are old boxing judges and some just don't understand the game.

I think that Dana White likes to see explosive fighters who have knockout power. Forest isn't a crazy stand-up knockout guy, I don't think its a conspiracy, there has been times in the past where Dana disagrees with the judges and calls for a re-match.

I think the judging was bad as you should have to decisively beat the champ to become the champ, and I don't think forest did that.

I think an immediate rematch is completely necessary and will happen in this case.

NOOOOO!!! RANDY!!!

It was heartbreaking to watch Randy knocked to the ground by a gigantic sledgehammer of a fist and then pummeled into oblivion by the behemoth of a man known as Brock Lesnar. Randy did well in controlling the massive sob at times, even getting a takedown, but Randy was outsized/strengthed (220 lbs, compared to a 275 pound the-night-of-fight Lesnar) and is too old. I realize that ppl have been counting out Randy due to his age for the past 10 years, but at some point, he WILL be too old. I think last night was possibly that point.

It's kind of surreal to think about the fact that Brock Lesnar is the UFC heavyweight champion... nuts.

He needs to fight FEDOR!

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2008/11/15/mmax-large.jpg

Yeah that sucked. I couldn't imagine having to fight Lesnar. He's a freak. I have to think someone's going to come along and chop him down. Sooner or later someone will use his size and brute strength against him.

I agree that Lesnar is a beast but I feel like the UFC did him a favor by putting him in a title fight after only 3 previous matches. Some of you may know more than me about MMA, and maybe due to potential he got his shot, but I feel like he got the fast track to the title. Couture is one of my favorite fighters and has been beating great opponents for years. It may be his time, but I wish the belt would have gone to someone more deserving of a title fight.

I know I wouldn't want to step in the ring with Lesnar though...

I agree that Lesnar is a beast but I feel like the UFC did him a favor by putting him in a title fight after only 3 previous matches. Some of you may know more than me about MMA, and maybe due to potential he got his shot, but I feel like he got the fast track to the title. Couture is one of my favorite fighters and has been beating great opponents for years. It may be his time, but I wish the belt would have gone to someone more deserving of a title fight.

I know I wouldn't want to step in the ring with Lesnar though...

there's no doubt that Lesnar was undeserving of a title shot. however, it all comes down to the UFC wanting to put together entertaining fights that have mass appeal and will pull in big PPV numbers. I'm not sayin it's right, but that's how things go in pro-fighting. i do understand what you're saying tho.

Yeah that sucked to watch. A pro wrestler is now the heavyweight champ. That's pathetic!

The UFC championship is now property of Vince McMahon.

The UFC championship is now property of Vince McMahon.

That's a great line! That's kind of how I'm feeling about the fight. I realize that it could only happen in the heavy weight division, or at least I think so, but it's still hard to watch. I like the weight classes where skill and speed is involved, not just a 50 lb. body weight difference.

Yeah that sucked to watch. A pro wrestler is now the heavyweight champ. That's pathetic!

Well, I think ppl are putting too much emphasis on the fact that Lesnar is a former pro wrestler. Regardless of whether he was in the WWE or not does not take away from the fact that he is a legitimate athlete who possesses incredible strength and speed for his size, and was a division 1 NCAA championship wrestler. Although Lesnar does not have the experience or skill that we may want from a champion, it was still a combination/obstacle that an aging Randy Couture was unable to overcome.

For those who don't know or forgot, Lesnar left the WWE years ago to pursue "real" sports/competition and tried out for the Minnesota Vikings. Although he ultimately didn't make the cut, the coaches at the training camp all said how impressive Lesnar was for someone who only had high school-level football experience.

Of course I wish Randy had won, but I don't feel that former-pro wrestler Lesnar as champion diminishes the sport of MMA (or the brand of UFC). As the much used saying goes: styles make fights. And this was a matchup that Couture did not favor well in.

Point taken. And i was half joking in my comment. Let's face it, Lesnar
SHOULD be the heavyweight champ. Who better right now?? The guy
is like the illuminati athlete! Just remember everyone can be beat. Whether
they get beat or beat themselves(edit double entendre here) it happens
to 'em all. People once thought Matt Hughes was invincible and now he
can't buy a win.
Bottom line, if Brock told me to shut the fcuk up, I'd be quiet. And when
he leaves, I'll start talkin' again.:lol2: Seriously I think Brock could be champ
for a few. He's fairly quick for a big guy, super saiyan strong, and is
a highly skilled wrestler developing a punch game. All i can say is guard
yer grill bitches. As thick as his neck is you can forget a knockout by
punch. One would have to catch Brock with a knee or strong kick to
the nose or temple or a counterpunch or knee to body, e.g. liver...

...and WWE is fake but it's prolly safe to say a couple of those guys could
kick all our asses. Ever stood near one of these dudes?

was watching the UFC 91 Countdown again and was made aware of an interesting fact:

Couture only had two pro fights (both on the same night, too!) before he was given a title shot against then-Champion Vitor Belfort. Couture of course launched his career of upsets by beating the young Belfort for the title.

It was a different time for the sport back then and i'm not trying to justify Brock's too-soon title shot, but just thought it was interesting.

Lesner should fight Kimbo for a title bout. Might as well keep the freak show going.

Then if Kimbo wins, they should bring back the sumo guy from UFC1 and have them fight. :D

Well the lightweights have always been electrifying to watch and
there's always a freak show to keep the heavyweights somewhat
entertaining but the light heavyweight division is quite competitive
now with some good talent. That's the division to watch imo.

Speaking of...the UFC 92 card is awesome. I may actually pay for
this one. Rampage vs Wanderlei Silva, Mir vs Nogueira, and Forrest
Griffin vs. Rashad Evans. Those should be some really good fights.

Anyone going to watch De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao? I'm not a huge boxing fan but I may at least watch it if I find it online somewhere.

I think De La Hoya has an edge in the fight. He's bigger, stronger and a very smart boxer. Pacquiao is faster but I don't see him knocking out De La Hoya.

I'm gonna get it and have some friends over. Any of ya'll in town are welcome. =P
I like Paquiao for this fight. He will like Steve says have to tend with Oscar's size and
strength but i believe he can out punch Oscar and i think he can knock him out. He's
a very skilled body puncher and Oscar has been knocked out by a liver shot. But it
really could go either way. I like 'em both.

I saw Junie get choked out last night on The Ultimate Fighter. That was awsome. He's such a POS.

So who's going to win in the finals? I don't think Vinnie is that good of a fighter overall but I think he'll do well if the wrestler guy takes him down because Vin's guard is the bees knees.

The lightweights, I didn't pay much attention to so I don't really care who wins there.

For the main event, I think Nog will beat Mirr. He's got better stand up and I don't think Mirr can tap Nog. The later the fight goes the better off it is for Nog since Mirr has been a little chunky lately.

Yeah, Ryan "the master" Bader will lose because of his lack of jiu jitsu and his one dimensional ground n' pound wrestlerness.

About the De la Hoya v Pac-Man fight... I think De la Hoya just doesn't care about being competitive any more. He's just fighting for money (not that others don't, tho) and his Golden Boy promotion now. He basically said in the post fight interview that he thought he was already expecting the result of the fight. terrible.

I can't wait for Dan Henderson v Rich Franklin. Henderson deserves some recognition here in the US!

***GRAPHIC INJURY PIX & VID***





This is the most gruesome thing ever... well, maybe not ever, but still pretty gnarly

Corey Hill on wednesday's UFC Fight night (unaired match) goes for a kick with his outrageously skinny legs and... SNAP!!! ppl with chicken legs like his have no business doin muay thai.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnDbsF6-u3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OmRpZa01iU



I need to find a vid of that Al-Hassan guy who fought that night who refused to tap and got his arm hyper-extended by like 30 degrees... OUCH!!!

Aww I missed that leg break! But I did see the armbar! That was so cool!

Did you see how badly he was fighting? He would punch like a robot with his hands down and his jiu-jitsu was the worst I've seen in the cage since UFC1. What a dumbass!

Anybody could be a fighter but as evidenced not everybody can be a fighter. Very
unfortunate for dude. i cringe every time i see it. And being skinny is not the cause
of the break though it would be easy to assume by the looks of those twigs. It's the
bone of the shin cutting thru the opponents muscle that makes this attempted kick
so painful and effective. But he may not have been conditioning his shins well enough
to play muay thai. Also he threw the kick wrong. This kick needs to come at a
downward angle to strike with the right angle of the shin. His kick came at an
upward angle with the flat/weaker part of the shin and it was checked by a guy
who used proper technique and whose leg was prolly better conditioned.
But i've seen and sparred skinny guys who were deceptively strong and had
hard conditioned bones.
Too bad for the guy. Hope he heals up well.

Brock Lesnar!!!

I love it. It's so great how Lesnar is a heel (i think he enjoys being the bad guy), and not to mention one who is an incredibly intimidating physical force and demolishes everything in his path. PLus, it's pretty awesome how his entrance music is Enter Sandman by Metallica.

I admire Frank Mir for his recovery from a motorcycle accident and return to the UFC, but this is Lesnar's time.

http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop.php?image=http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090711122723__DJV0986b.JPG&width_size=600

Arianny Celeste (on the far left) is sooo gorgeous



Oh yeah, i'm stoked for Henderson's big knockout win. I hope Hendo gets a rematch against Anderson Silva. I think he's the only one at 185 who can beat the Spider.



Check out the whirling dervish of an announcer, Bruce Buffer:

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I think Brock is a toolbox with the IQ of one of those tires he beats with a sledgehammer for practice. Being a martial arts practitioner myself, I hate watching someone so....crude in their fighting style.

I'm stoked that Henderson and GSP won. GSP and Machida are my two favorite fighters, I'm probably biased due to their Karate background though.

I think Brock is a toolbox with the IQ of one of those tires he beats with a sledgehammer for practice. Being a martial arts practitioner myself, I hate watching someone so....crude in their fighting style.

what's so crude about it? Brock Lesnar is a phenomenal wrestler with incredible power. his fighting style is exactly what it should be at this point and he is smart to utilize his primary strength against his opponents. His stand-up is not on par with Frank Mir's so the logical thing is to take him down and ground and pound. Ground and pound has always been a good offense/defense against submission guys. Being a mixed martial arts practitioner myself (well, not at the moment, cuz gym memberships are expensive), i think Lesnar is smart in doing what works for him. It may not be graceful as Anderson Silva, but it works, and in the end that's all that matters in the art of fighting. Besides, Mir knew exactly what Lesnar would try to do in the fight and could do nothing to stop it.

ppl like to paint a picture about Lesnar that he's some meathead with no brains. while he is no Stephen Hawking, if you watch his interviews (and not just the short clips they use to hype the fights), he's a relatively intelligent person who knows exactly what he is doing.

maybe i'm biased cuz i have a wrestling background :-P


note: Lesnar did publicly apologize for his post fight ring antics

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/mma/UFC/14458660;_ylt=At1nlYf53LvWCnJPAeXBFQlYEo14

I love it! My bro and I had to order in those fights last night. One of the better tickets I've seen in a while, and none of them disappointed. I have to say that post-fight interview makes me dislike Lesnar a little less. He's very rough around the edges, but as said above, a great fighter is one who can push any fight to their advantage. Lesnar had the size and strength to force the fight to the ground, and he used his great wrestling background to maintain control the whole time. I thought he fought incredibly well, and it blows me away that a guy weighing about 280 at the time of the fight can actually move as well as he does.

Jeez, I just read the yahoo blurb and trying to be a "bad guy" in a real sport came off pretty badly apparently. The president of the UFC scolded his ass and he came out drinking a bud light after trying to diss the sponsors and fans. Not saying he should be a shill but he lacked sportsmanship in what is a terribly brutal and difficult sport. I watch the bouts on cable channels so I'll have to make sure to see this one.

while Lesnar could of course benefit from showing a lil more class, I think Dana White is a little hypocritical in scolding Lesnar for not being professional. I mean, this is the same guy who is the president and face of the UFC and constantly drops F-bombs on national TV and during interviews.

this may seem like i'm goin on a Brock Lesnar love-fest, but whatever. here's some interviews

from '07, shortly before his debut MMA fight:

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Inside MMA parts 1 and 2:

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what's so crude about it? ....... His stand-up is not on par

That's exactly what I was getting at. I'm a stand up guy. I prefer a gi over a skin tight onesie. ;) So when I see a guy who's only go-to move is a straight right, it bothers me a bit. I agree that he's a beast on the mat, just think how much better he'd be if he would refine his stand up game. Hopefully over time that's exactly what will happen...and possibly an attitude improvement as well.

I prefer a gi over a skin tight onesie. ;)

dude, spandex... all spandex!!! :mrgreen:



i can understand that ppl who are all about stand-up may not be big fans of the ground game, but there really is much more complexity and skill involved than it may initially appear.

but yes, i do hope Lesnar eventually becomes a more well-rounded fighter. for instance, Lesnar was so easily able to control a BJJ black belt like Mir with his wrestling strength, imagine if he had submission skills. Throughout much of the first round, Lesnar was controlling Mir's left arm and could have gone for an Americana/Kimura a la Matt Hughes style. But i dunno, i think Lesnar enjoys punching ppl in the face alot more tho...

Lesnar sucks, he's got what? 3 years of training? He's champ only because he's big, just like when Tim Sylvia was champ.

GSP is just gay, I was really hoping he'd lose.

Hendo is cool. He's a great champion just like Randy. He's got class and skill. Doesn't talk a lot of trash. I don't think he can beat Anderson though.

GSP is just gay

Tight shorts ftw.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090712/capt.b937663733814e05b45c652eb7deda51.mma_ufc_100_ nvlas202.jpg

image from associated press

While I guess I don't really see the point in watching two people beat the crap out of each, just not my thing and no offence to those who are into it, at least it better than pro "wrestling" which is nothing more than a soap opere for men. just something about watching 2 men roll around on the floor with each other, seems kind gay...

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Hey it's not that gay!

i think i've posted this somewhere before, but i think it's appropriate to do so again:

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/gay-jiujitsu-demotivational-poster.jpg

Is that Wanderlei Silva...umm...."receiving"?

Hey it's not that gay!

especially not when it's like this:

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and this:

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Those girl drills remind me of certain drills I've worked on in karate as far as the fact it looks good in slow motion, but takes a crazy amount of practice and training to be even remotely effective in a real combat situation.

On the other hand, it's more entertaining to watch those two demonstrate mechanics than sweaty guys. :P

Those girl drills remind me of certain drills I've worked on in karate as far as the fact it looks good in slow motion, but takes a crazy amount of practice and training to be even remotely effective in a real combat situation.

On the other hand, it's more entertaining to watch those two demonstrate mechanics than sweaty guys. :P

You're exactly right. It does take a lot of practice. I think that's why it's hard to keep many students in jiu-jitsu. They expect to just practice the moves with a willing partner then they will be good at it when in reality you have to put in many hours of sparring time to see any improvement.

OK, BJ Penn or Kenny Ken Flow?

I think BJ is better on his feet and on the ground, but Ken has way better conditioning. In the end I think BJ will win if he comes in shape.

Also, I heard Fedor signed with the UFC. Lensar's days are numbered! *evil laugh*

Also, I heard Fedor signed with the UFC. Lensar's days are numbered! *evil laugh*

No, Fedor signed with Strikeforce. UFC basically gave everything Fedor asked for (he could compete in Sambo anytime he wanted to, etc...) but Fedor's management, M-1 Global, wanted half of UFC's marketing share. That is outrageous.

Although i'd of course like to see Fedor in the UFC, there isn't quite as much top-tier competition in its heavyweight division as ppl would like to claim. Although Lesnar has great talent, strength, and is learning quickly, he's obviously not ready to face the greatest heavyweight of all time. Shane Carwin or Cain Velasquez? Besides maybe those three, who honestly in the UFC poses a true threat to Fedor? ...Nogueira? Already lost to Fedor multiple times. Mir? was destroyed by Lesnar in such a way not unlike Fedor would. Randy? old man.

I think the main deal is that in Strikeforce, Fedor's fights will have limited marketability and appeal for casual MMA fans. The UFC is where you go in the USA to gain popularity and fans.



Oh yeah, I say BJ by TKO in the 3rd round. I think that loss to GSP has made him realize, once again, that he can't rely on talent alone to get him through every fight.

Anderson Silva by brutal KO over Griffin in round 2. Well, Forrest is pretty scrappy, maybe round 3

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15713/breaking-news-strikeforce-signs-fedor-emelianenko-to-multi-fight-deal-m-1-to-co-promote.mma

looks like you were right!

I agree about Silva. No one is going to beat him for a long time?

You guys (and by "you guys" I mean LeatherWings) finally put some decent, non-gay, non-neanderthal content in this thread, and you move on after like two posts??? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not ready to leave my happy place yet. :mrgreen:

Let's watch those again:

especially not when it's like this:

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and this:

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You guys (and by "you guys" I mean LeatherWings) finally put some decent, non-gay, non-neanderthal content in this thread, and you move on after like two posts??? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not ready to leave my happy place yet. :mrgreen:


hahah, alright...

here's a video of my favorite UFC ring girl, Arianny Celeste, doin some muay thai training: god, she's sooo hot!

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and on a photoshoot:

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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/gnr250/ariannyceleste.jpg

:bow

FYI, if you go to the full Youtube versions, one of the comments is:

"Dayum. She got a sex tape?"

My sentiments exactly. :lol2:

10 times better than that manly chick everyone is freaking out about...

10 times better than that manly chick everyone is freaking out about...

you talkin about Gina Carano? what's wrong with her? I don't think she's the hottest woman on earth or anything, but i certainly think she's an attractive gal.

http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2007/05/17/gina-carano/gfd_l5.jpg

she's a good, talented fighter, but i think she may be served her first loss in MMA against her upcoming opponent, Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos. and quite frankly, i'm terrified of her!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3393538182_8999622e1c.jpg

remind anyone of a famous Ali photo?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3393538236_2577f1c92c.jpg

you talkin about Gina Carano? what's wrong with her? I don't think she's the hottest woman on earth or anything, but i certainly think she's an attractive gal.

http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2007/05/17/gina-carano/gfd_l5.jpg

For the record, I would let this woman beat the everliving CRAP out of me. Anytime, anywhere. Yes, please. :mrgreen:

For the record, I would let this woman beat the everliving CRAP out of me. Anytime, anywhere. Yes, please. :mrgreen:
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+1 :wink:


Anyways, here's a nice vid of her. Damn... she's hot, can kick ass, and seems like a totally cool chick, too :drool

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fight highlights:

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Wow... really don't wanna see her get crushed by that dude Santos.

What?... that's a woman?

No way, she's definitely packing wood.

Carano is too hot to get pummeled by that monster. Sad, sad, sad...

Carano is too hot to get pummeled by that monster. Sad, sad, sad...

Word. She's fierce, but she needs to get out of this racket before she gets all un-pretty.

Wow..Anderson Silva straight pwned Forrest Griffin!! Dayum.. I know every dog has his day and Silva will probably have his ass handed to him eventually, but as far as i'm concerned ya gotta beat him first, then talk shit..
I think he's pound for pound the best in UFC right now.

Wow..Anderson Silva straight pwned Forrest Griffin!! Dayum.. I know every dog has his day and Silva will probably have his ass handed to him eventually, but as far as i'm concerned ya gotta beat him first, then talk shit..
I think he's pound for pound the best in UFC right now.

I don't think that fight surprised anyone.

I also agree that he is one of the best technical strikers in the game today, but Machida may be equally as good, but with a totally different style.

I'd love to see those two fight.

Anderson Silva is not pound-for-pound the best in the UFC, he's the lb-4-lb best in the world.

He's not gonna fight Machida tho, they are good friends and sometimes train together. GSP vs Silva at a catch weight would be interesting, but Silva is pretty big and thinking of permantently moving up to 205 and even relinquishing his 185 title. It seems to be that he doesn't like Dan Henderson and has no interest in giving him a rematch.

I don't think the outcome of the fight suprised anyone, but it was the fashion in which Silva was able to make Griffin, a former light heavyweight champ, look like such an amateur. Granted, I never thought of Griffin as a true champ cuz i don't think he really defeated Rampage, and was (T)KO'd the very next fight by Evans.

I think griffin's strategy was pretty flawed. why the hell was he trying to stand with him? he should have clinched with him, used his size to push him against the cage, taken him down and ground n' pound... it's the only hope he would have had.

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He's not gonna fight Machida tho, they are good friends and sometimes train together. GSP vs Silva at a catch weight would be interesting

IMO the way things should go is that GSP move up to fight Silva in his current weight class, then if Silva wins (which even though I like GSP, I think Silva would win) he should move up to light heavy for good and fight Machida. Silva says he wants to fight the best, then he has to get around that friendship thing for one night and fight Machida. I don't foresee anyone dethroning Machida anytime soon (of course there's always lucky punches in UFC) so if Silva has any hopes of getting a belt at light heavyweight.....yeah.

it's gonna be a good one. this saturday

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this is a pretty funny interview. damnit, she's HOT

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it's gonna be a good one. this saturday

Oh yeah. Time to stock up on beer, snacks, and, uh... lotion. :mrgreen:

"Are those happy tissues, or sad tissues?" - Forgetting Sarah Marshall

They should fill the ring with green jello and make them fight in bikinis!

They should fill the ring with green jello and make them fight in bikinis!
They should fill the ring with green jell-o and have Carano fight the jell-o. THAT is something I'd like to see.

Gina Carano at the weigh-ins yesterday... :drool

http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop.php?image=http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090814052503_02carano.JPG&width_size=600

Gina Carano at the weigh-ins yesterday... :drool

http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop.php?image=http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090814052503_02carano.JPG&width_size=600

I don't even know what to say. I'm crying right now. :cry:

Damn that is nice. I really hope she stays pretty in this fight. She's toned, but still looks like a woman. LOVE that.

* No Spoilers, just watch... Carano Vs Cyborg *

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the end of the video was the end of the fight

the fight, with a lil more pre/post-fight footage:

http://mmahits.com/fight-video/mma-video/strikeforce-gina-carano-vs-cristiane-“cyborg”-santos/

Saw this one live on Showtime, these bouts are almost as exciting as the male version which isn't the case with the female boxing matches I've seen. Funny thing is, I felt really bad for Gina after the fight, something about a woman going thru that really touched a nerve while with the guys who cares. Goes to show how shallow us males are!

The news made me cry a little inside. But at least she didn't look too mangled, considering the beating she took.

I couldn't watch the whole thing. Just too sad.

Gina, if I had a shack-up apartment for a mistress, there would still be a place for you in it... :mrgreen:

Couture vs Noguiera was a great fight, very suspenseful to watch. Randy has re-signed with the UFC for six more fights over the course of 28 months! I mean, I guess if he still feels good and can be competitive, then why not... but i dunno man.

6 more fights? haven't watched 102 but I read that he still looked good...I doubt he needs the cash considering his newfound acting carreer should bring in the dough...

hate to threadjack but anybody heard of "the expendables"? his next action flick with Sylvester Stallone, Jason Statham, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren, Steve Austin, Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Apparently Brittany Murphy was gonna be in it originally, but pulled out or something...Shame...

Nog looked pretty good. Much better than his last fight. I think if he can beat Bob Sapp he can beat penis chest. The rest of the card sucked.

I think if he can beat Bob Sapp he can beat penis chest.
That took a second to sink in but that's some funny shit right there.

I think if he can beat Bob Sapp he can beat penis chest.

don't kid yourself. i know you hate Lesnar, but he's soundly beaten three opponents in the current promotion who had significantly more experience than he had, two of which were UFC champions.

some people may say that Lesnar did so only cause he's bigger and stronger, but if that's the only thing, then why isn't Bob Sapp the champ?


btw, i'm not saying Nog couldn't beat Lesnar, but there's no comparison between Lesnar and Sapp when it comes to fighting ability.

as graceful on the dance floor as he is in the Octagon:

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Rich Franklin sucks. Always has. I don't think Belfort will go far either, but I hope he gets another title shot.

Machida/Shogun will be a good fight!!!!!!!!!! Ok you guys have to vote now. I pick Machida to win!

Rich Franklin sucks. Always has. I don't think Belfort will go far either, but I hope he gets another title shot.

Machida/Shogun will be a good fight!!!!!!!!!! Ok you guys have to vote now. I pick Machida to win!


yeah, i never really viewed Franklin as a true top level championship fighter. I think they are gonna make the next fight for Belfort against Silva. Henderson and Marquardt are gonna be busy fighting each other, so it only makes sense for Belfort to get that fight against Silva right away.

I think if Rua shows up well-trained, it will be a great fight, but I still pick Machida by TKO.


Couture signed a six-fight, two-year deal with the UFC. sure, ppl have counted him out due to his age for the past ten years, but seriously now... at some point in life, you really do get too old for this. We'll see how he does against Brandon Vera come November.

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though he was ultimately knocked out in stunning fashion, Brett Rogers did suprisingly well against the fabled legend of Fedor and held his own for the first round and gave Fedor his toughest fight in quite some time.

They gave fedor what on paper was going to be an easy fight. He's the only really big name they have, they don't want him to lose.

They gave fedor what on paper was going to be an easy fight. He's the only really big name they have, they don't want him to lose.

I don't disagree that on paper it was an easy fight, but as far as giving Fedor an easy fight cuz they were afraid of their prized fighter losing, i don't really think that was the case. Fedor is not Kimbo Slice, and is widely regarded as the best heavyweight in the world and the best lb-4-lb by many. reason he fought Rogers is because Strikeforce doesn't have anyone else to fight him. Barnett failed his steroid test and is suspended in the US. Alistair Overeem may be next, but he's not exactly a top-rated fighter, and has even less marketability in the US. There just is not much good competition left for him in any other promotion outside a few of the current top UFC guys.

UFC107 was great! I didn't actually watch it but I saw the fights online.

I was happy cuz all the guys I liked won, Mir, Kenny and BJ.

I got to say Ken-flow looked like a beast! It's hard to beleive he's the same guy that BJ demolished. Speaking of which, the guy I hate the most in the UFC is dirty sanchez so I loved that fight. I guess instead of being BJ's nightmare, he was more like a wet dream :D

I was happy cuz all the guys I liked won, Mir, Kenny and BJ.

Mir definitely looked good. He put on like 24 lbs of muscle! I still think that assuming Lesnar can get healthy, Mir would still be overwhelmed by the former NCAA championship wrestler, but it would be a good grudge/rubber match.

Rampage needs to finish this A-Team stuff, and hurry up and come back and right Rashad, damnit!

Lesnar is a freak show though, no matter how many fights he wins i still cant consider him credible. He is like Bob Sapp - a freak show that did beat some top guys but is ultimately a joke.

Lesnar is a different size man altogether.. When u see him fight u dont see techincal talent, just a big guy. He is bigger and stronger than the other men he is fighting. They need a Ultra heavy weight so he can dominate over the fatty's, and other non techincal fighters.

I just dont enjoy watching the guy fight, and i feel like he brings discredit to the sport. We are not in the old days where competition didnt have weight limits, and u had to fight 4 fights in a single night.. If it were old school rules i would have more respect for lesnar but its like a 225lber entering a light weight competition. Lesnar walks around at almost 300lbs, lean... thats just bs when fighting guys more than 75lbs less

Lesnar is a freak show though, no matter how many fights he wins i still cant consider him credible. He is like Bob Sapp - a freak show that did beat some top guys but is ultimately a joke.

Lesnar is a different size man altogether.. When u see him fight u dont see techincal talent, just a big guy. He is bigger and stronger than the other men he is fighting. They need a Ultra heavy weight so he can dominate over the fatty's, and other non techincal fighters.

I just dont enjoy watching the guy fight, and i feel like he brings discredit to the sport. We are not in the old days where competition didnt have weight limits, and u had to fight 4 fights in a single night.. If it were old school rules i would have more respect for lesnar but its like a 225lber entering a light weight competition. Lesnar walks around at almost 300lbs, lean... thats just bs when fighting guys more than 75lbs less

honestly, i think you are absolutely wrong.

Not a credible fighter? that is such a ridiculous statement. He has tremendous amateur wrestling skills, and if you know anything about the history of MMA, amateur wrestlers have often had much success in the UFC. And yes, amateur wrestling involves technique. Wrestling may appear to be less graceful at times than Anderson Silva-type striking, but it is nonetheless its own art. Lesnar is definitely a talented athlete. He moves soo quickly for a man his size. And you can see his improvement with every fight. do his stand-up skills need work? sure, but so do a whole host of big name fighters.

The Bob Sapp comparison is superficial and has no grounds whatsoever, other than that they are both large. Like any other tool in fighter's toolbox, you have to work to train at it. And Lesnar obviously works diligently at making his strength work for him, and utilizes it well with his wrestling background.

And you said that Lesnar is just a freak show like Sapp who has beaten a few top guys... What top guys in MMA has Sapp beaten? Name one. Lesnar has beaten Mutli-time Champion Couture, former Champ Mir, and destroyed a vastly more experienced Herring.

The fact that he was a pro wrestler has no bearing on him being a real force to be reckoned with in MMA.

Lesnar makes the 265 lb weight limit for heavyweight. he deserves to fight anyone else who fights at heavyweight.

Sapp did a pile driver.

Sapp beat one of the best Muay Thai champions of all time Ernesto Hoost. I think he even beat him twice, and Ernest beat him once. They called Ernesto "Mr. Perfect" For a reason, and he was by no means small, but no match for a man over 100lbs heavier than him.

Im not saying that Lesnar has no talent - and wrestling is much a different. It takes talent but they have weight classes to display it in. My problem with Lesnar is he is to big for the weight class he is in. He is walking around at 300 and fighting your average man at 225. In no other weight class is that acceptable.. I understand that there has to be a roof some where. But you can clearly see in the fights he has fought especially against coture he was Techinicaly dominated. Couture was picking his shots, put the big guy down multiple times and did lots of damage. If it wasnt for Lesnar sheer size, he would not have walked with that victory..

It looks reminiscent of Bob Sapp in those terms.. He would walk in with little technique and just windmill his opponents. While Lesnar is better than that, it still reminds me of the same.

He came from no record, and after 1 fight he gets a title shot? thats not fair the to the leagues of people who had to fight their way to the top. He got an unfair shot, and capitalized on it.. good for him in that sense, but they need a new weight category for him.

Lesnar makes the 265 lb weight limit for heavyweight. he deserves to fight anyone else who fights at heavyweight.
Agreed. That's what you sign up for, that's what you get.

Lesnar is big, but he's no 300.

Lesnar prefight weight for his last fight was 289, while your right its not quite 300.. its pretty damn close.

That comes straight from his training logs where he post.. He is cutting to 265. But that is using medical rehydration with a IV to get back to the weight he needs to be to function.

I just like to see competitive bouts, and with his size its not.

But i have the lighter weight classes to watch..

Lesnar has talent, size and speed. But he is still a douche.

Sapp beat one of the best Muay Thai champions of all time Ernesto Hoost. I think he even beat him twice, and Ernest beat him once. They called Ernesto "Mr. Perfect" For a reason, and he was by no means small, but no match for a man over 100lbs heavier than him.

Ernesto Hoost was not a mixed martial artist, and that was not an MMA fight.

My problem with Lesnar is he is to big for the weight class he is in. He is walking around at 300 and fighting your average man at 225. In no other weight class is that acceptable.. I understand that there has to be a roof some where. But you can clearly see in the fights he has fought especially against coture he was Techinicaly dominated. Couture was picking his shots, put the big guy down multiple times and did lots of damage. If it wasnt for Lesnar sheer size, he would not have walked with that victory..

225 is considered light for a heavyweight. It's not Lesnar's fault if a guy who could make the 205 light-heavyweight class decides he wants to fight in the 'open-class' heavyweight division. What fight were you watching? Lesnar was not technically dominated. Randy got one take down, but Lesnar immediately got back up to his feet, and never was in any danger throughout. And people like to say that Lesnar got a lucky punch with his big 'hamhocks', but lesnar had hit Randy with two big knees prior to that happening, and had Couture wobbly from those strikes.

He came from no record, and after 1 fight he gets a title shot? thats not fair the to the leagues of people who had to fight their way to the top. He got an unfair shot, and capitalized on it.. good for him in that sense, but they need a new weight category for him.

to be accurate, Lesnar had one win in an outside promotion, and had two fights in the UFC before he got the title shot. but hey, guess who else got a title shot after only two fights in the UFC? Randy Couture...

unfair? life's unfair. UFC is a business, and that's the reality. They're going to make fights that will make sense for their business. Couture Vs Lesnar was the biggest UFC of all time.

creating a super heavyweight class is the least practical idea ever. If you're a heavyweight who floats around at 225 pounds and thinks it sucks to fight bigger guys, too bad. either get bigger, or cut weight and fight at 205. Just like Brandon Vera finally decided to do.

At what point do you give a guy credit for his abilities? it's all relative. BJ Penn is a prodigy. he used to rely on sheer talent to defeat the majority of his foes... does that mean he's undeserving of his wins? afterall, talent is something you're born with, and not something that can be learned.

Just like a BJJ black belt's knowledge, Lesnar's size and strength is something he trains to build up and maintain.

That is not a natural size and strength - Bj penn is a techincal fighter, a joy to watch. He wins because he is better.. not because he abused steroids for years in the WWE and has morphed into a mutant of a human.

Bj was a prodigy because he trained harder, and with the best of people Lesnar stuck needles in his ass.. there is a big difference.

Obviously Lesnar has the belt, and deserves it if he won it. I dont think he deserved a title shot a that point in his career, nor do i think Randy deserved one when he got it.. But Randy had been doing MMA a long time, and had an established record. He had fought in Japan for a long while. It takes from the sport in a sense that it makes it a non legitmate sport.. It doesnt matter your rankings, or your past wins, it matters how big of a star name u are? You should have to be a top contender before you get a title shot.

Next thing u Know Hulk Hogan and Sylvest Stalone are going to have a mma rematch to determine who should have won in Rocky.

Ill give credit when he is fighting men his size, and when he has an established record. Not when he barely beats a old man at the end of his career. He will lose again, and i hope it is a career ending injury so i dont have to watch his bohemothly slow movements any longer. Im all for Mir catching him in a heel hook, and going untill something breaks.

Im going for Bob Sapp Vs Brock Lesnar - Ghey match of the century.
But were not getting any where arguing.. so who cares.. you like Lesnar, i dont.. the end.

Im going for Bob Sapp Vs Brock Lesnar - Ghey match of the century.


:lol2: They should really do that.

Lesnar is very gay, and he's got a penis tatooed on his chest.

That is not a natural size and strength - Bj penn is a techincal fighter, a joy to watch. He wins because he is better.. not because he abused steroids for years in the WWE and has morphed into a mutant of a human.

Bj was a prodigy because he trained harder, and with the best of people Lesnar stuck needles in his ass.. there is a big difference.

well, i'm not gonna say Lesnar has not never steroids, cuz i of course don't know for certain. but i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as he has not tested positive for any. Some people just have the genetics to be the way they are. Even if he did use steroids, you don't just magically become big and buff right after you juice.

Being bigger, stronger, faster, is part of what makes a person a better fighter than another. Obviously technique/skill, experience, and talent are all important as well, but my point is that every type of attribute contributes to a fighter being 'better' than another.

Obviously Lesnar has the belt, and deserves it if he won it. I dont think he deserved a title shot a that point in his career, nor do i think Randy deserved one when he got it.. But Randy had been doing MMA a long time, and had an established record. He had fought in Japan for a long while. It takes from the sport in a sense that it makes it a non legitmate sport.. It doesnt matter your rankings, or your past wins, it matters how big of a star name u are? You should have to be a top contender before you get a title shot.

i'm sorry, but you're wrong. Randy Couture's debut in MMA was in the UFC, in 1997 where he fought his first two pro fights in the same night before facing Vitor Belfort for the title 5 months later.

But were not getting any where arguing.. so who cares.. you like Lesnar, i dont.. the end.

I don't care if you hate Lesnar's guts and think he is 'Penis Chest', as Sneaky Steve so affectionately has named him, I just think that some of the points you've made are weak when it comes to saying Lesnar is not a credible fighter

one of the reasons i like him is because he's a 'bad guy.' it's great, he's the fighter you love to hate

but agreed, this argument is not likely to get anywhere... but when do internet ones ever do?

ok, YouTube comments are hilarious to me, as people constantly spew anonymous, malicious comments at one another over stupid stuff. You know, like some guy goes onto a Metallica video and says how they suck balls, and how the Jonas Bros are way better, and then everybody gets all riled up.

I typically try not to be an a-hole, but I thought i'd have some fun with this one. I cut and pasted mine and another guy's comments below the video:

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marksvk (http://honda599.com/user/marksvk) (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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nice:D:D:D bu bruce lee is best fighter...


7bush7 (http://honda599.com/user/7bush7) (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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he wouldent survive agaist a mxed martial artist like Georges st. Pierre, Anderson silva, or Matt Hughes. He woudent even beat Royce Gracie.


leatherwings007 (http://honda599.com/user/leatherwings007) (1 week ago) Show Hide
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shows how ignorant you are... Bruce Lee WAS as mixed martial artist.


7bush7 (http://honda599.com/user/7bush7) (1 day ago) Show Hide
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Really? Im a wrestler and I would love to see that malnourished karate kid try and take me down or submit me.

I have respect and reverance for Lee but his style would be be completely ineffective against a mixed martial artist.

shows how retarded you are.


leatherwings007 (http://honda599.com/user/leatherwings007) (1 day ago) Show Hide
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You are a clueless idiot. The whole philosophy of Jeet Kune Do is to have no style, and to adapt to each and every opponent.

Once again, if you knew anything, you'd know that Bruce Lee studied grappling.


7bush7 (http://honda599.com/user/7bush7) (1 day ago) Show Hide
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yea I can study acting and I wont be the next Brad Pitt.

your just some unathletic tool who does Jeet June Do or karate and think noone can beat it.

Bruce Lee would be beaten in stand up and eventually taken down where he would either get submitted or TKO due to strikes.

you have no idea what you are talking about.


leatherwings007 (http://honda599.com/user/leatherwings007) (23 hours ago) Show Hide

you got it all wrong... you won't be the next Brad Pitt because you're ugly

and btw dickface, i'm a wrestler.


7bush7 (http://honda599.com/user/7bush7) (37 minutes ago) Show Hide

good one.

and no your not. But if you are then you are a disgrace to the sport.

Do u wrestle? explains the love for lesnar lol

I trained at a big Gracie Barra for three years pretty seriously untill i tore up my knee up, have been out of the sport for awhile now and havent fought in over a year. Would like to get back into it, but every time i go i reagrivate all the old injuries i accumulated over the years. Im only 25 and my knees feel like that of a 90 year old.

But im getting fat so ill probably end up back in there just to get back in shape. Seriously sometimes choking someone is the only thing that can make your day.

Anderson Silva even imitated that crappy spinning hook kick bruce lee would do. lol

Buce wasn't the best, or even that good. He was just the first to get famous on TV.

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Mark Coleman got completely dominated by Couture in every facet of the game last night. Randy showed how he continues to evolve as a fighter and remain effective despite his age. Coleman was just a slower, more lethargic version of his former self. But that made me kinda interested in watching some classic Coleman fights (before he was a has-been) and i stumbled across this. Japanese are crazy...

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Randy was being very nice in the first round. He could have easily put him away in the first but tried to show him some respect and give him the dignity of finishing a round.

You could see a big differance in the second. Randy got the very same body lock, but this time he pulled his hips and did some G&P.

I think it was the worst card ever in the UFC, but I did get some good laughs making fun of it.

Jon Jones is a phenom. As long as he keeps up both his mental and physical training, I really think this guy is going to become LHW champ at some point. One thing I really like about him is that he's not a generic fighter. many ppl these days have developed a very homogenous style, whereas JJ mixes it up with many unpredictable strikes and takedowns.

look at him dispatch of vet Brandon Vera in his usual frenetic fashion. Check out the brutal CRACK of JJ's elbow over Vera's skull at 4:34

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some HL's

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His wrestling looks pretty good, but I don't think his stand up is awesome. He's got that Chuck Lidell awkwardness that can throw noob strikers off.

Put him in the ring with Anderson Silva and he'll beat the crap out of this kid.

His wrestling looks pretty good, but I don't think his stand up is awesome. He's got that Chuck Lidell awkwardness that can throw noob strikers off.

Put him in the ring with Anderson Silva and he'll beat the crap out of this kid.

pshh, of course if you put JJ (or almost anyone else, for that matter) in the ring with A Silva, one the top lb-4-lb fighters in existence, he'll get beat. My point was that this 22-yr-old has enormous potential and will be quite the force to be reckoned with as he continues to grow as a fighter.

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Lesnar vs Carwin... It's on! That is gonna be one helluva fight between two massive men with very comparable strengths and abilities.

In other news, Dan Miragliotta is the worst ref ever. It's his f'n job to keep fighters safe and he let Mir take soo much unnecessary damage. This is just the latest display in many of Dan Miragliotta's deficiencies as a ref.

Try not to spread this around too much but you can watch all the good quaily bootlegs here at www.mmatko.com I'm afraid if it gets too popular it will get shut down.

But you can watch the fight without some drunk guy belching.

http://www.mmatko.com/shane-carwin-vs-frank-mir-fight-video-ufc-111/

Oh and lesnar is a giant penis, I hope this guy kills him.

Try not to spread this around too much but you can watch all the good quaily bootlegs here at www.mmatko.com (http://www.mmatko.com) I'm afraid if it gets too popular it will get shut down.

But you can watch the fight without some drunk guy belching.

http://www.mmatko.com/shane-carwin-vs-frank-mir-fight-video-ufc-111/

I know, but I like to embed videos... Just like how Lesnar is gonna embed his huge hamhocks into Carwin's face.

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You know what i don't understand? is when fighters have non-existent or terrible game plans. Dan Hardy knew GSP's goal was to get him to the ground to submit or ground n' pound him, so why the hell didn't he have any takedown defense? I mean, if your plan is to not get involved in a ground battle with GSP so you can strike with him, don't you need to avoid being taken down?

I realize GSP is great at wrestling and was even able to takedown ppl such as Hughes and Penn, but c'mon! It's like Hardy didn't even bother to train takedown defense. His stance was so upright and tall that he was basically beggin for a double-leg!


on another note:

did anybody else notice that Rachelle Leah was back as an octagon girl? haven't seen her around the UFC in quite some time!

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and speaking of embedding...

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Any predictions for the next card? Should be a good one!

I say Silva beats Maia. Could be in 30 seconds, just depends on when he wants to finish him off.

Penn beats edgar by submission. I don't know who edgar is but Penn is always a safe bet at 155.

And I think Hughes will beat Renzo but I really want Renzo to win. This one is really up in the air for me. They are both older but wise fighters. I'm not sure what kinda shape they will be in.

Gotta always go with Penn. He reps RVCA with us!

http://www.jeff-samardzija.com/news.asp

I think Silva with finish off Maia in a similar fashion as he did with Marquardt.

Edgar's got a wrestling background and has ok striking, but has nothing on BJ's boxing and phenomenal grappling skills and takedown defense. BJ with some strikes to soften up Edgar and a win by submission in the 3rd.

Hughes vs Gracie: This, like SSS said, will be closely contested. However, I think Hughes' un-matched conditioning will be a big factor in this fight, and be able to dictate the pace. Hughes has developed some pretty effective 'anti-jiu-jitsu' with his wrestling and ground n' pound, so i think Mughes will eventually trump the wiley Gracie vet.

Maia was a joke as a real contender, but Silva's performance was uninspiring, as he basically put himself on autopilot the last half of the fight after doing excessive showboating in the first half. I think the problem is that Anderson Silva has grown bored of his challengers at 185 and needs to be challenged. Silva is supposed to fight GSP at 170 since he beat Maia, but Dana White was pissed at Silva's nonchalant performance and said Silva "doesn't deserve to fight GSP."

It really is annoying to see someone of Silva's caliber dance around the ring and not just finish his opponent off, and in a way I agree with Dana, but now I really wanna see GSP beat Silva. I think Silva deserves to get a Gn'P beating now because of his third disgraceful performance at 185 as someone who considers himself (Silva) a devoted martial artist.

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I can't believe BJ lost to a decision. I think fights like this should be a draw, but that's what happens when you don't do any damage or win decisively without question and leave it up to the judges. Maybe BJ was suffering from a similar dis-interest in his competition. another uninspiring performance

Hughes vs Gracie pretty much happened the way i woulda thought. Hughes has 3 fights left in his contract. who the heck is he supposed to fight? he'd get killed by the current crop of 170 top-dogs. He should just retire.

I really wanna see GSP fight Silva. I hate GSP and I think Silva could knock him out, but if GSP wins it could be a good reality check for Silva.

Well, Shogun is the lightheavyweight champ now, and is set to face the winner of Rampage vs Evans. I hope after Anderson Silva defeats Chael Sonnen, he moves up to 205 permanently. Now he can fight for the title too, since his teammate Machida is no longer at the top. There's really no more reason for him to fight anybody else at 185.

Back to Rampage vs Evans. I've been waiting such a long time for this f'n fight. finally Rampage is through with all that Hollywood baloney and is back. I can't wait! I just hope he doesn't have any ring rust.

Rampage is my hero!

"They gone' be some mo' black on black crime!!!"

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he needs to bring back the slams!

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I know every dog has his day and anyone can lose at anytime in MMA but i'm sure no one least of all Showtime expected Fedor to tap in like the first minute of the first round. Got to give it up to Fabrizio..nice triangle/arm bar. I love when the underdog wins in dramatic fashion.

I know every dog has his day and anyone can lose at anytime in MMA but i'm sure no one least of all Showtime expected Fedor to tap in like the first minute of the first round.

The King has been dethroned!

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i'm sure Fedor will demolish him in a rematch, tho. it will be like GSP vs Serra, or Lesnar vs Mir...

this is THE fight i am most anticipating... can't wait till these two goliaths go toe to toe

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The King has been dethroned!


i'm sure Fedor will demolish him in a rematch, tho. it will be like GSP vs Serra, or Lesnar vs Mir...

Wow, I agree he might win a rematch but you can't call that luck either. Fedor is very slopy with his ground and pound. He wasn't sweaty enough to yank out of that thing yet.

Wow, I agree he might win a rematch but you can't call that luck either. Fedor is very slopy with his ground and pound. He wasn't sweaty enough to yank out of that thing yet.

well, i'm not sayin it was luck... Fedor made a mistake and Werdum capitalized on it. However, I just think that overall, Fedor is a much better fighter than Werdum and won't make that kind of mistake again in a rematch.

I just wanted to offer up a quote from the reliably stoic Russian former Pride champion, after his first ever defeat:

"The one who doesn’t fall never stands up"

Brock Lesnar is now, without question (aka Fedor*), the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world! He is officially the baddest man on the planet.

C'mon Superbly Sneaky Steve, you know you love that beautiful arm triangle that Lesnar put on Carwin... :mrgreen:

http://l.yimg.com/go/news/picture/2010/g1/20100704/20100704161248241g1_163658_0.jpg


And you know what makes it even better? His entrance theme is Enter Sandman by Metallica! :headbang

Lesnar's msg to Carwin: Exit Light... ENTER NIGHT!!!

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and just cuz i think this is a great live performance... ;)

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* As far as universal media rankings go

23 minutes of stunningly dominant performance, just two minutes away from a lifelong dream realized... shattered by only a few seconds of retribution...

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...I saw there was a new post in this thread, and after 23 seconds of deliberating and then finally clicking, my lifelong dream of seeing another picture of Gina Carano was shattered by this stunningly gay video of two dudes being gay and smearing blood all over each other. Way to go, Batboy. :mrgreen:

OMG what a noob move. Haven't these wrestlers learned anything since Coleman/Gracie?

Not sure what the F was going on with Anderson. Quite dissapointing considering Sonnen ain't even that good.

Not sure what the F was going on with Anderson. Quite dissapointing considering Sonnen ain't even that good.

Sonnen is a beast. He earned that title shot, he's just vulnerable to subs as Damien Mia showed him.

He's not a slouch, by no means, but beast?? Stretching it. Beast wouldn't have pit-patted when he had AS mounted the way he did..for 5 rounds!! Other than the tiny mouse under AS' eye he was no worse for the wear. Almost made me think AS was playing the whole fight. He was taken down at will almost too easily but never allowed Sonnen to truly capitalize and dominate from the mounts.

He's not a slouch, by no means, but beast?? Stretching it.
no way man , he ran Silva over & pounded on him for 15 minutes. best MMA fight I have ever seen! Silva just proved theirs a reason why hes 12 and 0. Sonnen made him pay the rent.

best MMA fight I have ever seen!

:crazyHaven't seen many MMA fights, huh?:lol2:

I guess if someone just really wanted to see AS get beat up, then this was a good fight. But i saw little technique from where i sat.

I guess if someone just really wanted to see AS get beat up, then this was a good fight. But i saw little technique from where i sat.

i don't like Chael Sonnen, but it takes alot more technique than you think to be able to control your opponent the way Chael was able to. He also stayed busy the entire time, and never 'layed and prayed.' You say that Silva looked no worse for wear, but he was definitely affected by alot of the shots that he took. Silva was even rocked with some big shots on the feet, which NO ONE would have predicted. I think because of the fact that ground and pound looks less graceful than Silva-style standup, ppl quickly judge that it must also contain less techique. That kind of domination on the ground comes from years and years of competing in wrestling at the highest levels.

but i'm not saying Chael is the super-techician, nor do i actually like him, i just don't think you give the guy enough credit. but in the end, despite all that transpired, all the credit goes to Silva. since he, after all, is the one who got the "W"

oh yeah, and Anderson Silva says his performance was hindered because of a rib injury he sustained a few weeks prior.

If you want to know why AS did so badly in this fight just take a look at his training partner :roll:

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And my favorite Wesley Snipes quote ever is "Steven Seagal, he's only dangerous to a buffet table!":lol2:

guess I still don't see the point in watching two people beat the crap out of each other...

Women's jello wrestling, that's something worth thinking about...
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If you want to know why AS did so badly in this fight just take a look at his training partner :roll:

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And my favorite Wesley Snipes quote ever is "Steven Seagal, he's only dangerous to a buffet table!":lol2:

pshhhh, OMG what a noob move... :wink: you can't embed html, and you certainly wouldn't be able to do it that way...

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guess I still don't see the point in watching two people beat the crap out of each other...


You obviously wouldn't be allowed into this club.

http://manlinessclub.com/

You obviously wouldn't be allowed into this club.

http://manlinessclub.com/


Sorry that I don't have to define my masculinity through the violent actions of others, Maybe I can define myself as a man by being, well a man, and not someone that like to hide in the realm of this "fantasy" world were two people feel the need to kick the crap out of each other because, well... for no reason at all as it turns out. But as I’ve stated, to each his own... Enjoy it as much as you like, and remember, it's only gay if you look him in the eyes...

Sorry that I don't have to define my masculinity through the violent actions of others, Maybe I can define myself as a man by being, well a man, and not someone that like to hide in the realm of this "fantasy" world were two people feel the need to kick the crap out of each other because, well... for no reason at all as it turns out. But as I’ve stated, to each his own... Enjoy it as much as you like, and remember, it's only gay if you look him in the eyes...


who says you gotta be a man to indulge in some ultra-violence and kick ass?

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5:33 yes, in the best way possible...
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who says you gotta be a man to endulge in some ultra-violence and kick ass?


This should be the only post in this thread.

About time. Thanks. :mrgreen:

About time. Thanks. :mrgreen:

another up and coming female fighter, by the name of Miesha Tate...

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Hey, isn't that JHenley???:mrgreen:

Hey, isn't that JHenley???:mrgreen:

lmao

Man I love these breakdowns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQyHqg3NDg

Man I love these breakdowns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQyHqg3NDg

"Getting a black belt in jiu-jitsu from the Nogeira brothers is like getting a toy with your happy meal" - Sonnen

poetic justice.

I really like the way Rener teaches. He's uses so much energy and he smiles a lot. It would be cool to hang out with him and hear all the stories about his uncles.

Yea i would love to learn from those guys. They are enthusiastic and clearly love their jiu jitsu.

Yeah... You guys go talk to those dudes about other dudes... Ima see if I can get Gina to f*ck me silly and then put me in a choke hold for a little nap on her chest. :mrgreen:

Judges?....



Chaz wins.

Ima see if I can get Gina to f*ck me silly and then put me in a choke hold for a little nap on her chest. :mrgreen:



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