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five99er
12-14-2006, 12:13 PM
Does anyone have any experience with these?
eBay: HONDA CB 599 01-04 DUAL HEADLIGHT HID CONVERSION KIT (http://item.express.ebay.com/Vehicle-Parts-Accessories_Motorcycle-Parts__HONDA-CB-599-01-04-DUAL-HEADLIGHT-HID-CONVERSION-KIT_W0QQitemZ290043875683QQihZ019QQddnZVehicleQ20P artsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadnZMotorcycleQ20PartsQQ cmdZExpressItem)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2135/2b1blv5.jpg

Alex
12-14-2006, 03:29 PM
No, but I love the dual headlight look. (Hence my love for Speed Triple)

PS. I edited your post to be a little more descriptive, I hope you don't mind.

craigpfeiffer
01-27-2007, 10:27 PM
no but i love the look i have some hid imatations look great :ride really in hance the ridability at night 8)

djamalt
01-27-2007, 11:24 PM
No, but I love the dual headlight look. (Hence my love for Speed Triple)
I agree (& love the trip). I just don't know how well dual lights will work on the '06 with the mini cowl gauges integrated into one piece with the headlight. :idonno

Chris G
02-07-2007, 02:49 PM
Is it true that if you stall with HID lights you have to wait a good 20 seconds before you restart because it will fry the bulbs? I herd that from one of the guys at work after i told him a HID kit would help him out for his night riding.

craigpfeiffer
02-07-2007, 02:52 PM
the imatation hids dont just look good they really help but their hard to find in a h11

rndthought
02-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Is it true that if you stall with HID lights you have to wait a good 20 seconds before you restart because it will fry the bulbs?
Doesn't sound right to me, think it would hurt the igniter circuit (if designed to be inexpensive) not the lamps...I mean the lamp is just a gas filled envelope with two electrodes separated by a gap.

Also, on the GF's Infinity you can turn them on then off then on again... no issue yet and the thing is almost a year old.

drew
02-07-2007, 06:54 PM
We have a PIAA HID fog light system set up at my work as a demo, and they turn on/off/on again with maybe a 1 second pause between off and on again. They also take about a second to come up to full brightness, but they are ridiculously bright even in that first second! :thumbsup

Chris G
02-08-2007, 08:19 AM
Do they even have a setup for the 599 06 single lamp?

craigpfeiffer
02-08-2007, 08:23 AM
i think they do but their way $$

JasonC
04-13-2007, 11:50 AM
I put a single HID in the low beam position with a kit from XenonDepot. I'm very happy with the kit, and I didn't mess with the high beam because it gets switched on/off often. The low beam HID nearly makes the high beam unnecessary.
I am somewhat leery of on/off cycles burning it up. If I think about it, sometimes I'll have the starter button held down when I turn the key on for that reason.

Sachi
04-15-2007, 10:17 AM
I also have replaced my low beam with a HID bulb from http://www.xtralights.com/ . It works quite well, although I had to cut a hole in the back of my headlight shell to make room for the bulb! (It extended straight back; the stock H11 Halogen bulbs had an L-shaped back that saves room.) I just installed this bulb, and now that I know how it works I am about to install another HID bulb for the high beam.

(I also put on a couple of Hella auxiliary lights. I like having a lot of light for my night rides across the desert!)

rndthought
04-15-2007, 05:21 PM
I also put on a couple of Hella auxiliary lights.
Can we be graced with a pic of your set up??

Oh and "Sandy Eggo" :lol:

Sachi
04-15-2007, 08:37 PM
Can we be graced with a pic of your set up??

Sure - I'll be happy to take a picture tomorrow. I meant to take some when the bike's all done -- I'm still working on some of the wiring. :P (And I am NOT at all knowledgeable about wiring, so I have to think a lot about what I am doing!) :lol:

Guzo
04-16-2007, 05:25 PM
I just put in an HID system this weekend on my 599. Well, I had it put in. I bought a set with 2 ballasts/igniters and bulbs. I spoek with the seller and had him make one H11 and the other H7, so me and my friend split the kit, he put it in his CBR, I put it in my 599.

This kit you're showing here, is just the system, not the two round headlights.

Sachi
04-16-2007, 05:36 PM
I also put on a couple of Hella auxiliary lights.
Can we be graced with a pic of your set up??

I posted four pictures over in my intro thread:

http://www.honda599.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=889

ranger5oh
05-01-2007, 08:21 PM
ANyone have experience with these? http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_52&products_id=94

for $75.. seems really cheap for a full HID conversion!

tx_metabaron
08-06-2007, 03:03 PM
ANyone have experience with these? http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_52&products_id=94

for $75.. seems really cheap for a full HID conversion!
I'd like to know that as well.
It seems several people installed HID kits successfully,can you please chime in with references to your kit ?

(sachi's kit looks good but $200!!!).

tx_metabaron
08-07-2007, 10:54 AM
I got a PM fromo Guzo who successfully installed the above mentioned $75 HID kit on his 599,so it works well and apparently is easy to install.
Just thought I'd post my findings.

:P

LarryBoy599
01-05-2008, 03:35 PM
Do anybody know what the bulbs sort for the 2006 599???? I don't have my bike at home and I'll like to order HID kit

Sachi
01-05-2008, 04:12 PM
My 2004 has two Philips H11 LL bulbs. If your bike is a different year, you may have a different setup (for example, the older 599s have one bulb, not two). It's easy to check but you need to take the lens off the light bucket to look at the bulb.

JHenley17
01-06-2008, 11:25 AM
It's two H11s on the '06.

DavidVTHokie
01-07-2008, 11:00 AM
I don't know much about HIDs - but it seems cars with HIDs have "projector" housings while standard lights are "reflector" type. I know some people do it for the color...

So how well does one of these conversion kits work out, since they are not in a projector?

DavidVTHokie
01-07-2008, 11:10 AM
For those looking for the dual-headlight look.
http://www.whaccessories.com/Head%20lights.htm

I've seen other kits on ebay last year, but nothing recently.

Sachi
01-07-2008, 11:39 AM
I don't know much about HIDs - but it seems cars with HIDs have "projector" housings while standard lights are "reflector" type. I know some people do it for the color...

So how well does one of these conversion kits work out, since they are not in a projector?

Very well indeed, David. Once you use a HID you'll never want to go back to a halogen!

JHenley17
01-07-2008, 04:19 PM
The projectors pretty much just aim the low beam so that you're not blinding oncoming drivers with your super-bright HIDs. Changing the bulb alone isn't going to give you much improvement, you're going to need to put in a ballast, which is the main part of the kit.

Sachi
01-07-2008, 04:47 PM
My understanding is that the HID bulbs won't work at all without the ballast and igniter. You need to buy the entire kit.

VooDooYouDo
01-07-2008, 11:30 PM
Somethings apparently bare repeating. Probably about a million times before people understand that HID lights aren't just swappable bulbs.

I remember when the halogen lights with xenon gas (very small %) in them came out and people thought you would suddenly have HID lights. Just cause they're blue doesn't mean shit.

I've heard some mixed reviews, for one you ARE blinding the oncoming traffic.

Projectors are also designed for the beam the xenon arc creates. Just like LEDs don't necessarily work in some applications because of the beam spread. So you ARE getting brighter light, but not necessarily a properly focused beam.

Not to say I won't try it someday. I don't ride at night much.

TooManyIDs
01-08-2008, 07:01 AM
....blinding the oncoming traffic....

Don't necessarily agree with that one. As long as the replacement bulb is properly designed, it will work with the reflector in the same way the stock H11 does. More light, but still in the same pattern the reflector is designed to create. Beyond that, if the headlight has some aiming adjustment, it still has to be in spec.

I did a HID replace on a '02 Z06, one of the best mods I ever did, and no complaints from oncoming traffic.

rndthought
01-08-2008, 08:12 AM
Don't necessarily agree with that one.As long as...

But some light does "leak" above the beam pattern (otherwise you wouldn't see the source)...AND because of this, its brightness does impact your vision in two linked ways, first if the point source is brighter than a threshold, your eye will iris down. This leads to reduced contrast vision at night. And then once irised down, it takes some time for it to open back up, during this time your contrast vision is reduced, really important at night were light levels are low.

This is where projector designs excel, they are very good at harnessing the tighter arc (more of a point source) and getting a larger % of that light collimated into the "beam pattern"...

Simply shoving a brighter Arc lamp into a housing designed for a more splayed out filament type bulb will increase the light output - but all light levels - beam and spillage, and that is the issue.

The beam is brighter but so is the "spillage" and that hurts oncoming drivers by reducing their contrast vision and after the source passes, it takes a short time to gain that back, effectively dimming their own headlights temporarily.

VooDooYouDo
01-08-2008, 08:42 AM
Thank you RND. Logic prevails!

But they still look awesome.

rndthought
01-08-2008, 04:07 PM
BTW this is the same technique that magicians use to make it super difficult to see wires, slits in curtains and such.

May have noticed that just before some big trick, there is either some pyrotechnic, blinders (just bright lights aimed at the audience that they turn on for a second or two) or the ambient lighting on stage/hall was very high then dimmed just before the trick. :clap

Trunkmonkey
04-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Does anyone know or has anyone seen an HID bulb/kit with the H11 base? Or even a rebased bulb for that matter. I've been looking for a good kit and do not want mod anything for it to fit properly. I havent been able to find one so if anyone has some suggestions on ones that fit without excessive hacking plz let me know.

Trunkmonkey
04-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Does anyone know or has anyone seen an HID bulb/kit with the H11 base? Or even a rebased bulb for that matter. I've been looking for a good kit and do not want mod anything for it to fit properly. I havent been able to find one so if anyone has some suggestions on ones that fit without excessive hacking plz let me know.

JHenley17
04-08-2008, 02:37 PM
I'm pretty sure you're going to have to change the socket. There may be a kit that just plugs in, but HIDs don't use the same bulbs.

If you're wanting to put an HID kit on it, you're going to have to do some "hacking." I know you're going to have to at least wire in a ballast and then change the sockets.

If you're just wanting the xenon-filled halogens for the bluish color, good luck. I can't find anything but H4s and H7s.

mugen
04-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Ok, so as I was reading earlier in the post, those knockoff HID's from ebay for $9 aren't actually any brighter.....just blue right?? I noticed many of them claim to be 8500K etc, is this the mesurement of lumens? Does anyone know the K intensity of the stock bulb?

JHenley17
04-10-2008, 11:10 PM
That's the color temperature. Higher is more blue. 8500 isn't too blue, I think, but it's definitely blue.

I think I've heard that they may be slightly brighter, but nothing really drastic. They're still halogen bulbs. It's more for looks. If you find some H11s, please point me in that direction...

Guzo
04-11-2008, 08:09 AM
H11 kit at a ridiculous low price...

Even if only one works...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-HB4_W0QQitemZ190213253460QQcmdZViewItem

motorico
04-11-2008, 10:38 AM
H11 Bulbls at a ridiculous low price...

Even if only one works...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-HB4_W0QQitemZ190213253460QQcmdZViewItem

That shipping is outrageous. I see where they make their $.

JHenley17
04-11-2008, 01:52 PM
Oh... that's an actual kit... At that price, it's almost worth giving it a shot, but it also seems like it would be very low quality...

JasonC
04-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Here's a very good review of the HID kit I installed on my bike.
webbikeworld HID review (http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/hid-light/motorcycle-hid-light-conversion/)
I was concerned about poor light pattern when I installed mine, so I did some experiments and got opinions of other drivers. None seemed to think it was a problem, as long as the headlight is aimed properly. Even with the stock bulb, you can see a distinct line where the light shines and where it doesn't, so just keep that line below the horizon. I actually keep my headlight housing slightly loose so I can adjust it on the fly if needed. When I'm alone on back roads at night, I'll scoot it up a bit for better vision.

There is also a warning about Xenondepot's restocking fee. Indeed, that bit me too. I originally ordered an H4 bulb instead of an H11. I had to pay a restocking fee plus shipping back to Canada ($$), plus shipping back to me. Pricey mistake. I'd be really pissed if it wasn't my own damn fault.
In the future, I'd like to put in a second kit for high beams. Technically you're not supposed to cycle power rapidly, but I doubt as little as i use them would cause a problem.

rndthought
04-15-2008, 10:31 AM
Jason... for HID every time you fire the lamp it's about equivalent in wear as 2-4 hours of run time. Also it takes a bit for the lamp to come up to operating temperature and be at the correct brightness and color temp. With these small lamps it's rather fast maybe 10-30 seconds but still... And if you do it too much w/o letting the lamp ever come up to operating temperature you can get uneven distribution of the metals inside and wind up with a lamp you can't ignite.

Also, when the lamp is cold and first strikes the power supply is working it's hardest. So you may not want to push it in a fast cycle operation for longevity issues.

For high beam, I'd get those small driving lights I see some mount.

OH and as far as “White Light” is concerned.... 8500 is getting to the blue side of the scale. I wouldn’t want to go too much further as blue light is harder to focus for the eye.