I'm making a new thread. This is in response to the last post made by JMD on the "Delete" thread.

Yes, he did buy another bike after selling the Hornet, but that's because he decided to get a loan and use that money for his brother instead of going without a bike for who knows how long. Give the guy a break...he has a lot going on with the new kid, going to classes to change carreers and, on top of that, this thing with his brother. I mean, he sold his bike and a bunch of other stuff. (Didn't people around here buy guns, etc from him? This wasn't just all about the bike.) He was kind of spontaneous on the bike thing and wound up with an F4i for an amazing price...it was just a deal he couldnt turn down. Then he was too ambarrassed to tell you guys about it...makes sense to me. But just because he can be a bit impulsive and maybe not that great at explaining things doesn't mean it's all isht. And instead of trying he just gets fed up with it and deletes posts. Not what i would do, but there ya go.

He recognized me on the CBR forum and contacted me, telling me what was going on as we've gotten to konw each other a bit, what with trading new baby pics and all, and he was too embarrassed to tell everybody on this forum because they'd think he's a flake. It's just a big misunderstanding. So don't be too hard on him...he's going through a lot and we all know what it's like going through crisis...sometimes you dont want to go over it again and again, but just move on. So believe what you want...but don't jump to conclusions just because of one awkward situation and impulse purchase.

This is all very true. I'm a dramatic and "over-emtional" sort of person and when caught up in things requiring an explanation I usually just end up saying "f*ck it"...especially when I feel like there are people who already have their mind made up thinking they "know" what has happened. I did in fact PM JMD and discussed this with him several weeks ago in confidence b/c I figured you guys would respond exactly how you have responded...thinking you had "figured it out" and jump to inaccurate conclusions. Looks like I was right. Fortuneatley I have the PM's with dates and times between JMD and myself that you are welcome to view.

The long story short is, before my brother was given a terminal diagnosis, I had considered selling the Hornet and possibly picking up a new 06 Hornet and had also considered an F4i. That same week my brother was given a diagnosis, refused treatment, and was told he would be dead within a few months. This prompted me to go ahead and sell the Hornet to help him and his family pay his escalating medical bills. Just over a week later he ended up hospitalized in thyroid storm which is when it was discovered there had been an error in his original biopsy results with mislabeling. At this point, I had already sold the Hornet and didn't feel right about backing out on the deal (been through that once when I bought the Hornet) and the seller had already written and sent a check for the bike. I had previously taken out a substantial personal loan to help pay for my brothers medical expenses (because I'm NOT rich and have NOT intended to make it wound that way as one poster suggests). If you will reread the post about "money" I simply staetd what my SON would have when he turned 18. I never said I was rich or had money to blow. The fact is my SON will have the money to buy an Augusta or Ferrari if he chooses. It will be HIS money..not mine. So...get your facts straight pal if you're going to allude to a post like that...ok? So with a small amount of money left from the personal load, and a pending legal suit (you can't imagine what sort of turmoil my famliy went through as well as medical expenses with my brother thinking he was going to die in 6 months and have to leave behind a widowed wife and three small children) I started looking for another Hornet. I happened to run across the deal on the F4i and could not pass it up.

At the time, I wanted to share it with you guys but figured you would all reach this conclusion. I'll gladly give you phone numbers or contact information and my brother and famliy will gladly confirm this is the truth. I PM'd JMD on the CBR forum after recognizing him and explained this to him and asked him how I should handle it. He actually suggested that if I didn't want you guys to know that I should not use the same screen name on CBR forum. He also told me I could just tell you guys what all had happened and you would understand...I think he was wrong there.

So, WITH GOOD INTENTION, I figured I'd wait a few weeks and explain the situation and change the date of incidence up a few weeks. What I have posted is 100% true except that I changed the dates up a few weeks so no one would think I was full of shit or whatever you want to call it.

JMD has posted this last post on his own, without my knowing or prompting. I'm glad he did, but certainly would never have asked him to do it. Maybe you don't trust me but all of you trust JMD...that I'm sure of.

In any case, when my name was recognized on CBR forum by Mechanic77 I figured it was too much to try to explain at that point...and besides I didn't really have anyone to confirm my explanation. Since JMD has decided to post I've decided to post this explaining..since he did take the time to confirm my posts...I felt like I owed it to JMD.

You guys know my wife and his became pregnant within a few weeks of each other and JMD and I have been talking more outside the forum the past few months b/c well...we sort of shared a "common bond" so-to-speak.

I hope this clears up some of the misunderstanding. It was done with good intention so you guys wouldnt jump to conclusions. Maybe I went about it the wrong way, but I did it with good intention b/c I really like everyone on this forum and you guys have been there to help me out from day one.

Incidentally, I will be buying another Hornet in the next few months pending financial ability. I do have a lot on my plate right now and my transient emotional swings don't help much when I'm trying to decide how to explain things. Maybe you guys see life events as clear cut, black and white, but I don't. This usually causes me a lot of problems with things just like this.

Anyway, I hope youguys don't harbor too many ill feelings. My "delete' issue is sort of my way of saying "fuck it" and "erasing" things. I'm a complicated person. But the one thing I can assure you of is that this was not a "smealll...or spealll.."or however it was termed in the other post.

Anyway...that's all I can say.

JMD...thanks for the post...I didn't expect you to do that...so thank you. :-)

And if you don't understand after this explanation...then sorry...but I plan on hanging around this forum for a while to come unless AleX boots me.

I'm more than happy to be wrong, but the sheer convenience and massive drama of this situation is more than slightly overwhelming. Too many things don't logically add up. The simple explanation tends to be right.

Option A: Guy wanted new bike, made a mistake ordering a bunch of parts, panicked and made up a story to absolve responsibility. Guy gets new bike and looks like a hero.

Option B: Within 48 hours of ordering a tidal wave of motorcycle parts for a bike he isn't sure he wants, guy's brother gets terminal diagnosis and refuses second opinion. In finding out, rather than working with financial institutions to make reasonable arrangements to settle debt, guy sells off all beloved possessions within a week's time. Through random chance, guy's brother is found to not have a terminal diagnosis and the guy's going to sue to come out ahead. And now that the guy has a bit of extra cash, rather than pick up the motorcycle he had, or a similar model, the guy goes ahead and picks up the one that he wanted all along. Guy, who was more than forthcoming initially about his brother's condition, decides the good news can wait a few weeks while he upgrades his new bike.

I'd like to be wrong, because that means there is extreme relief in your family. You've had some of the greatest news of your life, after hearing some of the worst, and you're actually benefiting from it, if only slightly. That's good news and the kind that there's not enough of. Much as I'd like to believe it, Option B just doesn't make much sense.

+1 What Transient said. This whole situation is just soooooooooooo far fetched!

Oh, and by the way Moto, I don't think it was your name that was recognized in the CBR forum, it was the pictures of your wife in the "Hot Wife" thread. THEN your name was recognized.

Hey...you guys can believe what you would like. What I've posted above is what happened. Can't help it if you don't want to believe it. Transient...you find this is too random a chance? Yet somehow the mere fact that the world exists and you were conceived has a higher probability...don't see you questioning whether or not that all happened?? Come on...

Believe what you will. This is how it went down. Simple as that.

This is how it went down. Simple as that.

Simple as two threads, deliberately changing dates and overall manipulating information to bend(or smooth out) some opinion on the forum ?
It sounds to me (and I'm new here,so no bias one way or the other) that you have a very convoluted thought process. Why do you care about what anonymous people would think about you anway ?
Just enjoy what you like( a F4 or whatever).

The more personal info you're putting online,the more prone you will be to this kind of criticism.

All in all, I'm just sad you lied(EDIT : about dates,which compromised overall integrity /END_EDIT),your story touched me...

I dont have anything to say .... I dont hold grudges ..... I dont have anything against anybody .... but what I do know is it was F'ing wierd ...... very very wierd :shock: I think if you would have told us way back when it never would have gotten this far and people would NOT be so suspicious .... It would have looked different yah know? Any ways Moto I dont know your situation but I DO HOPE that things are better and I AM GLAD that you , JUST LIKE ME , have that bike as your "way" of release...... I know what its like to be without a bike ....... PS I also have 2 baby boys now just over 1 year old , twins, buy yourself the nicest camera you can afford and take as many pictures as you can ..... cuzz like your parents have said.....lol ..... It REALLY DOES FLY BY AT THE BLINK OF AN EYE :D

Sound logic, there, MotoGP. Look, dude, I don't particularly care one way or another except that lying irritates the shit out of me, especially the manipulative sort.

That said, I saw the pics of your F4i and it's a beautiful bike. Haven't seen a blue like that in a while.

Sound logic, there, MotoGP. Look, dude, I don't particularly care one way or another except that lying irritates the shit out of me, especially the manipulative sort.

I'll guess that you have never manipulated the truth..especially with good intent have you? Riiiiiight...take off your golden crown and come back down to earth pal. Given how few times you've posted up on this forum...I'll pretend it's understandable seeing as how you're still relatively a newb and all. Nothing personal...

tx_metabaron...consider changing your name to tx_metamoron. Simple as that.

Yeah Mechanic77... I know it's weird man. You and some of the other old timers should know by now that when I get frustrated I start deleting. People are acting like me deleting is weird. How many times have I posted...got frustrated...and just started deleting things? It's not odd for me to do that.

While I'll admit I'm a complicated person in terms of how I go about doing things...it's me..which should come as no surprise to you and some of the others that have been up here for the past year or more. This morning I was actually going through ALL my posts from the past year and was going to delete every single post I've ever made...then I realized just how time consuming that was going to become...and gave up on the idea.

At this juncture, I don't really care what people are thinking. I did...for the past few weeks. But now I'm at the "f*ck it" stage. If people would go back and actually look at my history up here instead of just picking out a couple of threads they would see this is not unusual behavior for ME.

Oh well. I doubt I'll be posting under this thread anymore. I'm inclined to delete all my posts in this thread...but then that would just give a few people more ammo.

Anyway, I've said what I had to say. If I keep on I'm going to work myself up and start ranting like I've been known to do in the past...so I'm going to stop while I'm ahead.

I'm done with this thread and the discussion about what I have or have not done in terms of motorcycles.

Anyone else that feels like jumping on the bandwagon...well...go f*ck yourself.

I'm sure that will get me banned...but now I'm starting to not care.

THE END.

Anyone who's been on here for a minute knows Moto gets happy with that little edit feature - unfortunately, he can't edit his riding skills and when he first got his bike was getting into a lot of trouble. But I digress. Relax folks, we're fam. Even fam gets on each others nerves every now and then. I know no one likes to be tricked, deceived, led astray, bamboozled, we didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on... sorry, got carried away. There are better things to argue about, like where will the Western Hemisphere Hornet Swarm be this summer... just putting it out there. No pressure. 8) Lets agree to disagree, or disagree about agreeing, or whatever. But we have been a good civil group, and I think bygones may just be in order.

tx_metabaron...consider changing your name to tx_metamoron. Simple as that.
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Anyone else that feels like jumping on the bandwagon...well...go f*ck yourself.

I'm sure that will get me banned...but now I'm starting to not care.

THE END.
I'm flabbergasted by the depth and quality of your answers.

Mods should really consider banning you,indeed ( THAT would be the end )

Any of you guys who have been around for a while know that 1) MotoGP is a spaz, and 2) he's never been anything but encouraging and courteous. Think about it, if it were you in this situation and people were basically jumping to conclusions and calling you a liar because you didn't handle or communicate certain things very well...even i would probably get pretty pissed (edit: if I were Chris). So let's not get too radical about a misunderstanding. MotoGP has been with us for a long time and i don't think we should be so hasty to judge. Whatever the case is, he's been a good member and contributor to this site and i don't think anyone (much less the newer members) should be so quick to call foul. Even if it's all a bunch of crap, he's not hurt anyone and has withstood the accusations without getting nasty (except in the case of tx_metabaron...who had already called him a liar without really knowing anything about him or his history here).

So let's just all chill out a bit and not say anything insulting especially since no one can really know anything either way. We can all have our opinions, but let's keep it civil, shall we?

My opinion is to give him a break and not forget his nature and history at the drop of a hat. And any talk of banning is completely unwarranted.

Chris,

You have been through a lot these last few months.
The path in life isn't just black and white.
As my Uncle used to say "There are a lot of ways to get to Chicago."
(Whatever the heck that means.)

I'm happy that the result with your brother, baby and bike have worked out ok. That's really what counts.

I've always enjoyed your enthusiasm and passion.
I don't post much, but I want you to know that reading your posts when you first started on your 599 have helped me a lot. I've enjoyed your journey and felt empowered by it.

Things may feel messed up right now but tomorrow is another day and I would miss very much if you weren't here to continue the journey with us.

Best wishes

Flipper

.....people were basically jumping to conclusions and calling you a liar because you didn't handle or communicate certain things very well...even i would probably get pretty pissed.

:banghead

Reminds me of High School.

:popcorn

That face eatin' popcorn's funny :lol:

Ok... I sat back long enough.

Chris:
You manipulated the truth and therefore you can't expect others not to call you a liar. A strong man knows when he's wrong and takes responsibility for his mastakes.

Everyone else:
Most of us have lied in our lives, I know I have. Please try not to stone Chris to death for his mistake. It happens. Let it go.

Personal attacks are uncalled for! Period. Please refrain from them. This isn't high school, please drop the drama. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who's right and who's wrong.

No hard feelings here Chris :thumbsup I still like yah :D I am DEFINITELY no saint

There are better things to argue about, like where will the Western Hemisphere Hornet Swarm be this summer



Man, we could meet in Memphis! Shoot, we would enjoy fine bar-b-que ribs at The Rendezvous and cruise through Graceland for a glimpse of the King's lifestyle. Later, we could all go drink a walk-me-down at On the Border in Southaven, MS (I'll buy the drinks!!!). There's a new hotel being built right next door to OTB, so everyone could maintain their sensibilities after we got our drink on. We could talk about Five Nine Nines and stuff. let's do it! :woohoo

...uh...been away from the computer for a few days so i don't know
wtf is going on but for the record, live and let live, don't burn yer
"britches", and it's all pink on the inside!! 8)

:grouphug :devil :friday "Mozltov bitches!"

There are better things to argue about, like where will the Western Hemisphere Hornet Swarm be this summer

Man, we could meet in Memphis! Shoot, we would enjoy fine bar-b-que ribs at The Rendezvous and cruise through Graceland for a glimpse of the King's lifestyle. Later, we could all go drink a walk-me-down at On the Border in Southaven, MS (I'll buy the drinks!!!). There's a new hotel being built right next door to OTB, so everyone could maintain their sensibilities after we got our drink on. We could talk about Five Nine Nines and stuff. let's do it! :woohoo

Bring that swarm on over to about Knoxville or so, and I'll do my best to meet ya there! :mrgreen:

Ok..I'm kinda lost here, But whatever..I usually am.. :?
Best I can tell is moto was close to being Exicuted...WTF? Anyway, I did gather that all is well at home Moto. :thumbsup Good luck...And maybe I can catch up on the weekends Events.. :D

Ok Ok...I see whats up now..I just read the entire post... Glad everythings ok Moto... Dude, Its no big thing IMO... Glad everythings ok..

I vote for knoxvill also :)

Glad your brother is okay, I lost a sister to an overdose and cried when I read your post, don't really care about all the soap opera stuff, kinda surprised you guys care so much, kinda thought men didn't reallly get into this kinda stuff, not to say you guys are acting like a bunch of women no cat fights here!!! Anyway, really glad you get to keep you bro and are in the wind again, Charlee

My $0.02 worth.

Moto, I'm glad to hear your brother is doing better than was thought.

As to the Swarm, the geographical center of the U.S. is in Lebanon, KS. The population center as of the 2000 Census was Phelps County, MO. I believe the riding is better in Missouri, being closer to the Ozarks. Either one should be equally convenient. :)

Someone in charge (not me, that is) should pick a place. I might just show up.

WTF happened here!!????....guess I don't come here often enough or read all the posts

buy anyways the internet is for me to shoot the shits

It should start in Kansas City. I don't have a Hornet anymore, but i think i could manage that... :wink:

Seriously, if it were in the Ozarks i'd be there. I've been waiting for an excuse to head to the mountians.

Oh, and we should all wear nametags with our screen name on them. Otherwise i'd have no idea who any of you people are. 8)

It should start in Kansas City. I don't have a Hornet anymore, but i think i could manage that...

Well if you're gonna be in Kansas City you all might as well swing through St. Louis!

...There are better things to argue about, like where will the Western Hemisphere Hornet Swarm be this summer... just putting it out there. No pressure...
I really did not mean to hijack this thread with that comment. But if people are serious about it, someone start a post in the Group Rides section. Won't be me though - if I can't even get more than one or two people together for a So Cal Hornet group ride, there's no way in hell am I'm planning one for the whole forum. 8)

... there's no way in hell am I'm planning one for the whole forum. 8)

Chicken! :lol:

(Yeah, now I've put my own neck out there. Couldn't resist taking a friendly jab, though.)

:tomato :lol:

Can someone do one of them "Soap Opera Updates" for me?

Humph. Seriously I'm lost here... but am I suprised there is drama around Chris? Ahhhh no. (Glad to hear your bro is not as bad off.)

As for swarm talk...take it to the proper forum... thanks. (TN is good with me :thumbsup )