View Full Version : Le Nouveau Hornet 900 CB1000


robotribe
11-06-2007, 12:32 AM
Found this on a French site I frequent:
http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2008/Honda_CB1000_08_stpz.jpg
Looks like they took some of the better-looking parts of an otherwise ugly new CBR100) and mated it with the new Hornet 600. Strangely, it works better for me than the Hornet 600 and CBR1000. Who knew it would take 2 tries before they perfected it.

Maybe perfect is too strong a word, but I do like what I see. Oh, my French is a work-in-progress, but if I'm reading it right, the Hornet 900 uses the CBR1000 motor (Fireblade), Not. Slow.

Source (http://www.moto-station.com/article3329-news-moto-2008-honda-cb-1000.html)

drew
11-06-2007, 04:35 AM
Very nice, indeed. It looks better than the '07 Hornet 600, that's for sure!

mechanic77
11-06-2007, 05:32 AM
now if that exact model was availible when I was upgrading I would have seriously considered that bike

VooDooYouDo
11-06-2007, 07:47 AM
Yes! Finally a Honda bike I can move up to.

Seems like my method was this...

Don't want a cruiser x harley
Don't want a rocket x honda/suzuki/kawi/yamaha

what am I left with?

Italians/Germans and Buell.

Seetrout
11-06-2007, 09:17 AM
Iiiiiiiiiii liiiikeeeee it!!!!!!

JHenley17
11-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Oooh... I like. My only compaint is the CBR1000-style exhaust... it just looks huge and ugly with that plastic bit around the bottom. Very nice, though. It looks as though the Z1000 isn't the only naked liter I'd buy any more...

hooligan russ
11-06-2007, 10:13 AM
That thing is SICK! I'm not a big fan of the exhaust either, I think it would look better under the seat, or a high mount like the hornet. I wonder when and if it will avaliable be state side.

G00se
11-06-2007, 10:43 AM
CB1000F Available in Black, White....and that fugly green yellow thing.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/defslayer02/black1000.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/defslayer02/white1000.jpg

HighRes available here
White (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB102008SWA.jpg)
Black (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB102008SBB.jpg)
Fugly Green/Yellow (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB1020083GA.jpg)

Alex
11-06-2007, 11:54 AM
The black and white one is sweeeeeeeet! And look at that rear wheel! Please Honda, bring this to US!

Seetrout
11-06-2007, 12:10 PM
The black and white one is sweeeeeeeet! And look at that rear wheel! Please Honda, bring this to US!

I am into it.
That puke greenish color has got to go for a bright yellow. :barf

Once you get rid of that grotesque appendage that's supposed to be a rear fender it'll look SWEEEEEET!!! :drool

JBarx
11-06-2007, 12:34 PM
My only concern is the seat... looks wicked uncomfortable, like it was directly pulled from a CBR. I've sat on CBR's and can't imagine running more than 30 or 40 miles in one without my ass going numb.

Otherwise, it's pretty cool. I'm not sold on the exhaust configuration either.

mechanic77
11-06-2007, 12:50 PM
Ill have the black one please...... I have an extra spot in my garage somewhere im sure :D

robotribe
11-06-2007, 01:43 PM
CB1000F Available in Black, White....and that fugly green yellow thing.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/defslayer02/black1000.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/defslayer02/white1000.jpg

HighRes available here
White (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB102008SWA.jpg)
Black (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB102008SBB.jpg)
Fugly Green/Yellow (http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/cbr1000r/MCB1020083GA.jpg)

Whoah…from the looks of it, I think the one I posted was a Photoshop job and these are the real thing. Regardless, still like it.

A LOT.

Super Sneaky Steve
11-06-2007, 02:21 PM
They are both photoshoped I bet. Honda is good at keeping secrets.

One can only hope.

VooDooYouDo
11-06-2007, 02:31 PM
SUPER HIGH RESOLUTION ACTION!

http://www.hondaitalia.com/Moto/uff_stampa/fotostampa/foto_touring.html

Trust me these pictures are freakin' huge.

G00se
11-06-2007, 03:10 PM
They are both photoshoped I bet. Honda is good at keeping secrets.

One can only hope.

Photos I posted were from www.honda.it

I would seriously want to upgrade to one of these cb1000r's but I highly doubt they will be available to the US.

robkb
11-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Looks like a Yamaha. Nothing spectacular. 'Cept the rear wheel.

Super Sneaky Steve
11-06-2007, 07:46 PM
I take it back, those have to be real!

The headlight is werid :?

LeatherWings
11-06-2007, 11:35 PM
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/110607middle2.jpg

Fancy...

http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/images/gallery_large_04.jpg

I'm liking how Honda is leaning more towards sport than standard with this. Single-sided swingarm is pretty cool. I think the headlight/instruments looks much better than the '07 Hornet 600's. The only thing I don't like is the zig-zag thing that's covering up part of the engine, that needs to be chucked.

I do like the change from 900F to 1000R :twisted:

Honda UK site for those of us who don't speak Italian: www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/ (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/)

robotribe
11-07-2007, 12:23 AM
I'm liking how Honda is leaning more towards sport than standard with this. Single-sided swingarm is pretty cool. I think the headlight/instruments looks much better than the '07 Hornet 600's. The only thing I don't like is the zig-zag thing that's covering up part of the engine, that needs to be chucked.

I like it all. Just one problem: IT ISN'T HERE. :evil:

Seriously, WTF is up with Honda USA? I hope I'm wrong, but it sure seems as if Honda USA defines its customer base in 3 different flavors, and NOTHING else:

1. I'm a sport bike track rider or wannabe sport bike track rider who never leaves the street

2. "I can't afford a Harley" guy but Hondas are more reliable and if you squint hard enough it looks Harley-ish

3. I like tow my toys out to the desert and/or play "pretend X-Games"

My 599 is a great bike. Too bad it's looking like the last of its kind here in the States…at least from Honda. If the U.S. dollar keeps creeping towards becoming the new European Peso, than it's even more likely that bikes like this will never see the light of day here.

I love my 599, but the Honda brand has lost my interest completely—not because they don't build bikes I'm interested in, but because they won't sell them to me.

LeatherWings
11-07-2007, 12:29 AM
Seriously, WTF is up with Honda USA? I hope I'm wrong, but it sure seems as if Honda USA defines its customer base in 3 different flavors, and NOTHING else:

1. I'm a sport bike track rider or wannabe sport bike track rider who never leaves the street

2. "I can't afford a Harley" guy but Hondas are more reliable and if you squint hard enough it looks Harley-ish

3. I like tow my toys out to the desert and/or play "pretend X-Games"
I think it might be more so that Americans themselves typically only come in those 3 flavors. Honda is just catering to them.

robotribe
11-07-2007, 12:52 AM
I think it might be more so that Americans themselves typically only come in those 3 flavors. Honda is just catering to them.
You're probably right, but all that tells me is Honda is all about maintaining their current market and has no plan for growth.

Oh well…let Kawasaki own the 250cc beginner market with their fantastic new baby Ninja and open up new doors (possibly) with the Versys. The 2008 CBR1000 will make Yamaha and Suzuki thank Honda for increases in R1 & GSXR sales, and many more SV650s will be sold to beginners looking for an inexpensive middleweight bike—because it's the only one (don't even start on HYOSUNG).

Looks to me like Honda's given up and is happy just to play it safe.

Safe is boring—profitable, but boring. That can only last for so long before the market leaves them so far behind that the only thing in view is the competitions' asses farting in their general direction.

LeatherWings
11-07-2007, 03:24 AM
Looks to me like Honda's given up and is happy just to play it safe.
I do agree with what you're sayin tho Robo. I see plenty of Ninja 250's around town so you would think it would make sense financially for Honda to update the Nighthawk 250 or provide a more competent 250cc bike to compete. In the US, the Ninja 250 really is the only bike in its class.

The SV650 has a sizable following, so I would think that if for North America, Honda had 599's produced somewhere other than Italy, they could have beat out the SV for best bang-for-the-buck bike.

I dunno, maybe Honda just figures that rather than try to nab some of the beginner/intermediate bike market share, they would just invest their resources in trying to dominate the supersport class. It would be cool to see a bit more variety from Honda USA... oh well. :idonno

VooDooYouDo
11-07-2007, 08:47 AM
With the wierd headlight, it looks like Bumblebee from Transformers.

360 degree view!
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CB1000R/360/index.html

Check out the Sword Silver Metallic, killer.. (UK website)

rndthought
11-07-2007, 09:06 AM
I don’t like the digital dash (especially blue), there are just some things that shouldn’t go Digital...like motorcycle gauges and physical exams...

You young boys may not get the joke...but you will :lol:

VooDooYouDo
11-07-2007, 09:11 AM
by digital you mean digits as in fingers and by that you mean up your butthole?

You're right i'm glad i'm not old. zing!

But you're right, i'm not a fan of digital tachometers either. The 06 is perfect.

Alex
11-07-2007, 10:41 AM
I'd upgrade to this in a second. (I wonder how expensive it is to import a bike.)

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/110607middle2.jpg

JBarx
11-07-2007, 11:13 AM
Seriously, what's with the squiggly headers?

I'm not that impressed. It looks like a lot of unnecessary hyper-angular aesthetic for no other reason than to do it. I'd still ride one, but I wouldn't go out my way to get ahold of one. But hey, that's just me. The U.S. 599's might be more plain, but strike me as more "resolved". That 1000 looks borderline-schitzophrenic, like they couldn't figure out what it wanted to "be"... in that quasi-existential sense.

I'm intruiged, but not sold.

Ok. I'm going to stop now.

robotribe
11-07-2007, 12:26 PM
Actually, the big hassle would be getting it up to DOT spec and C.A.R.B. standards so it can be registered. There's likely a bunch of legal hoops and associated fees that would make it economically unsound—more so probably than if HONDA JUST IMPORTED IT AND SOLD IT HERE*.

*me = broken record

I'd upgrade to this in a second. (I wonder how expensive it is to import a bike.)

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/110607middle2.jpg

robotribe
11-07-2007, 12:32 PM
I dunno, maybe Honda just figures that rather than try to nab some of the beginner/intermediate bike market share, they would just invest their resources in trying to dominate the supersport class. It would be cool to see a bit more variety from Honda USA... oh well. :idonno

I know I'm at a new level of whining about this whole thing and for that I apologize, but if Honda's gonna hang their hat on dominating the supersport class, I think they shot themselves in the foot with the spectacularly fugly 2008 CBR1000. I don't think it's the Gixxer or R1 killer they're hoping it will be. From the sound of it, at least on other boards and media I've read, I don't think my opinion is unique.

Of course, I can be proven wrong over time, but this is a big gamble if true.

LeatherWings
11-07-2007, 01:20 PM
...if Honda's gonna hang their hat on dominating the supersport class, I think they shot themselves in the foot with the spectacularly fugly 2008 CBR1000. I don't think it's the Gixxer or R1 killer they're hoping it will be.
I dunno, I'm personally starting really to dig it. I'd like to see one in person.

CBR 1000RR: 360 DEGREE VIEW (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CBR1000RRFireblade/360/index.html) + MORE INFO AND PICS (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CBR1000RRFireblade/index.html)

http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2008/CBR1000RRFireblade/images/gallery_large_06.jpg

VooDooYouDo
11-07-2007, 01:26 PM
Yeah, I don't get the 08 cbr1000 hate. I think it's more honda style which is understated sophistication rather than edgy gouge-your-eyes-out yamaha style

I think I might have to make my own CB1000R by taking the plastics and clip-ons off a CBR. :cry:

ukkev
11-08-2007, 04:39 PM
Two pics for ya's

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00tt0fw0.jpg

http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11cp0wq5.jpg

:drool

robotribe
11-08-2007, 08:57 PM
Cycle World about the Honda CB1000R:
It’s a replacement for the very aged Hornet 900 (the late great 919 in the USA), and European pricing is not mentioned. But it would surprise me to see one in American showrooms; Americans buy more buggy whips than big standards like the 919, and this bike, if it’s anything like the 599 (American for “600 Hornet”), will probably be built in Italy. Thanks to currency fluctuations, that will make it 30 or 40 percent more expensive than its competition in the U.S. A query to American Honda yielded the following dry statement: “American Honda has released its 2008 model lineup.” Translation: no CB1000R for you.
Ouch.
Link to article (http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=13&article_id=530)

VooDooYouDo
11-09-2007, 06:39 AM
Two pics for ya's

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00tt0fw0.jpg

http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11cp0wq5.jpg

:drool

You forgot to close the tags.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5558/00tt0fw0.jpg

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7949/11cp0wq5.jpg

Alex
11-09-2007, 09:52 AM
:banghead :rant :gtfo I'm hating Honda right now!

Sachi
11-09-2007, 11:30 AM
Actually, the big hassle would be getting it up to DOT spec and C.A.R.B. standards so it can be registered. There's likely a bunch of legal hoops and associated fees that would make it economically unsound—more so probably than if HONDA JUST IMPORTED IT AND SOLD IT HERE*.
I don't think that's such an issue. Euro emissions standards are quite tough, and making a bike that meets those standards would almost surely resolve the issue of satisfying EPA etc standards.

JHenley17
11-09-2007, 02:34 PM
I think it's a lack of market here...

rndthought
11-09-2007, 03:34 PM
...different market here :wink:

hook
11-13-2007, 01:05 PM
This is probably not true maybe an urban folk tale for lack of a better name, but I was told by a salesman that Honda doesn't make a profit on bikes in the US. Only the old man Soichiro was able to keep Honda motorcycles in the US...he refused during a meeting to withdraw from the US market.

mechanic77
11-13-2007, 01:32 PM
<<< Went to Kawi cuzz Honda just dont have it going on here :(



But IM SURE HAPPY I DID :D :lol:

VooDooYouDo
11-13-2007, 01:53 PM
This is probably not true maybe an urban folk tale for lack of a better name, but I was told by a salesman that Honda doesn't make a profit on bikes in the US. Only the old man Soichiro was able to keep Honda motorcycles in the US...he refused during a meeting to withdraw from the US market.

I'm sure at one point in time this was true. But there is no way a company would be here for so long without making a profit. They aren't airlines.

sseche
11-13-2007, 02:04 PM
The US is a huge freakin market. Honda keeps reusing lots of bin parts on new models... they know how to make money. The 599 price factor?, great bike but cost $800-900 more than a similar SV.
I just wish just one or 2 of those Europen modesl would land here?

Perhaps if they could build em in Brazil rather than Italy.

BMW builds the Mini in Brazil.

rndthought
11-13-2007, 02:48 PM
The US is a huge freakin market...
The European (UK and Italy mostly) and Chinese companies we import from keep saying the same thing..."sell more, US very big!"...but what they don't realize is that... 1st the US is a different market from the rest of the world and 2nd because it is a big market, EVERY manufacturer makes a big push here.

Most companies don't make the same margins here as they do else where. Americans put “price” as the number one qualifier they look for...:roll:

LeatherWings
11-13-2007, 03:20 PM
This is probably not true... but I was told by a salesman...
That should have been your first clue that what he was saying was not true. :wink:

jfeagin
11-13-2007, 10:08 PM
Most companies don't make the same margins here as they do else where. Americans put “price” as the number one qualifier they look for...:roll:

That is the whole, unvarnished truth! Bikes, cell phones, you name it. Most people here are all about price, which is very different from value. And you can bet the big companies have done their market research to know this very well. So those of us with more discerning tastes are kinda scrod.

Sigh :?