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TwigMonster
11-08-2007, 08:15 AM
Haven't ridden in a couple of weeks. The mornings here in N. Colorado have turned much colder since I last rode.

This morning on the way to work, I almost lost it on my the first right corner turn. It was slippery and as I entered the turn, the front tire began to slip out. I encountered the same problem again later in my commute. By this time I was cornering very carefully.

We haven't had snow or rain lately. But it definitely is cold enough to frost at night.

Anyone else encounter these conditions? I rode several times last winter and didn't notice this. Is there a way to know that the roads are slippery or is this just part of winter riding?

rndthought
11-08-2007, 09:12 AM
If it got down to "freeze" on the road. I'd park it...wait, I park for heavy dew :lol:

Plus Twig, tires that are probably hard as rocks due to the cold, especially so when you first start out probably aren’t helping the issue. Be careful.

Sev
11-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Really cold weather + 2 tires = ouchies!

Been there done that, when you hit that point however, it's time to park the bike for the season. You can probably still make a couple runs around or shortly after noon - when it's warmest. But for the most part I'd start taking the bus again.

ukkev
11-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Yeah, and streetcar tracks are getting nasty here in Toronto now too :?

fastkick599
11-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Really cold weather + 2 tires = ouchies!

Been there done that, when you hit that point however, it's time to park the bike for the season. You can probably still make a couple runs around or shortly after noon - when it's warmest. But for the most part I'd start taking the bus again.

Im still riding now to go to work. I dont ride when the ground is wet. It is getting cold though. Around 30's. I warm up the bike for 10 minutes in the garage before I go. Then warm it up but on the street before going home.

I still feel good about riding cause i have the winter gear on but can you explain to me why is it still so dangerous to ride on cold weather on a dry pavement?

And what happens if the tires are not properly warmed up enough?

Need some good advice on this cause I feel like riding it on the days when its not below 20 degrees...

Im a newbie ...guess im entitled to be stupid to ask stupid questions.? :lol:

02KBGT
11-24-2007, 04:38 PM
There are a couple of things to think about in cold weather...Off the top of my head, Your tires take longer to heat up which directly effects their ability to "Grip" the pavement.. also Asphalt is nowhere near as "Sticky" as it would be in warm weather..So you kinda have 2 things working against you in the "grip" department... Fortunatly you can somewhat control one of them by allowing more time for the tires to get a little heat in them..The result of not having the heat up in the tires, and the road, is that you will slide ALOT easier..Just take your time and alot more time for the ride in...Try to avoid hard breaking or leaning way over... I know this is not ALL the factors, But hopefully someone can help more..

fastkick599
11-25-2007, 01:23 AM
There are a couple of things to think about in cold weather...Off the top of my head, Your tires take longer to heat up which directly effects their ability to "Grip" the pavement.. also Asphalt is nowhere near as "Sticky" as it would be in warm weather..So you kinda have 2 things working against you in the "grip" department... Fortunatly you can somewhat control one of them by allowing more time for the tires to get a little heat in them..The result of not having the heat up in the tires, and the road, is that you will slide ALOT easier..Just take your time and alot more time for the ride in...Try to avoid hard breaking or leaning way over... I know this is not ALL the factors, But hopefully someone can help more..

Thanks so much for the advice. I will give more time in warming up the engine and not to go brake or go to fast so the tires dont get beat up right away. I never rode when the ground was wet anyway. Just wanted to know the important steps i need to do if I did use it on a cold weather with no showers or rain at all.

I see your modifications on your bike. I already have the mivv x cone can . The rizoma mirrors you have on your list is on my priority list as well. considering the black-round ones. I just have to save ....thanks again :D

mechanic77
11-25-2007, 06:14 AM
I ride year round as long as theres nothing on the ground.... I just dont do any leaning or any fast cornering .... this sucks but I find that it leaves alot of time for WHEELIEEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: It has been high twenties low thirties on my way to work in the dark and same on the way home in the dark ..... just ride like the ground is wet take it easy

02KBGT
11-25-2007, 08:22 AM
No problem.... Like mech said, You just goot take it a little easier.. Thanks for the compliment... I think I'm almost done with the cosmetic mods..Now I'm gonna start on the engine and try to up the HP a little..

If you dont already know, PJ's Parts sells all the Rizoma stuff for the Hornet..they were great when I was ordering all my goodies..Very helpfull people...Good luck.. And post up a few pics..

JBarx
11-25-2007, 11:03 AM
I can vouch for PJ's Parts... good people.

This is my first year riding too, and the cold is a little tricky. I've caught some slick spots a couple times, and like everyone else said you just have to give the tires more time to get warm and that will help a little. When it's dry a little warm-up time will help, if there's any frost or precipitation involved, I don't know at that point. I won't ride in those conditions because of my experience level.

Right now it's 41 degrees with rain coming up from KY. I was going to head out for a short ride but I really don't enjoy riding much below 45 or 50 degrees. At that point it becomes more about a fight to stay warm than a good ride which kinda kills the joy. Even with thermals, warm gloves, and a balaclava it's tough.

tomacana
11-27-2007, 10:24 PM
Another thing to watch out between now and spring is autumn leaves on the road. I hit a patch of wet leaves when I first got my Niner and had a front wheel slide. No crash but I was uncomfortable for a while with curves and the possibility of another front end slide. Leaves are especially bad in dark north hillside curves that stay wet.