View Full Version : Christmas or Happy Holidays?


Super Sneaky Steve
11-27-2007, 09:33 AM
Saw this topic in the news and thought it would be fun.

Oh yes, I'm pushing the hot button again! :D

VooDooYouDo
11-27-2007, 09:47 AM
I'll say Merry Christmas to anyone I want, P.C. pundits be damned.

Happy Holidays is so stupid, it's just rediculous. Besides Hanukkah isn't even the biggest jewish holiday, and kwanza is fake.

Alex
11-27-2007, 11:00 AM
Yeeeeeeeees, and then there are people raised in an atheist regimes/countries who don't celebrate Christmas, or Kwanza, or Hanukkah - they celebrate the New Year (and it's as big of a celebration as Christmas).

I mean, I don't really care if someone says "Merry Christmas" to me, I'll take it for what it is, "I'm wishing you well during these festive times" and I wish them the same back. :mrgreen:

So yeah, just my 2 cents.

Super Sneaky Steve
11-27-2007, 11:29 AM
It's a fuzzy area but the line in the sand for me is that Christmas is a national holliday. Therefor a Christmas tree should be called a Christmas tree and not a "holiday tree". Why offend 90% of Americans who celebrate Christmas so as to not offend a much smaller group?

I guess the free markets should and will sort this out. The people like Christmas better and because of that this year more companies are bringing it back in their ads and such. The problem arises when a small group of people with a monopoly try to change the majority through the school system and media. Let our kids sing Christmas songs in school!

:rad

rndthought
11-27-2007, 11:50 AM
...Why offend 90% of Americans who celebrate Christmas so as to not offend a much smaller group?

Hahaha Steve, you are right! This is America! I'm positive if we put our mind to it - we can find a fair way to piss off 100% of the people...fairly.

robkb
11-27-2007, 12:05 PM
I like Merry Christmas because it specifies what time of year it is: Christmas!! I also say, "Happy Holidays". But, I like Merry Christmas better.

Alex
11-27-2007, 12:49 PM
Last year I was working for Coupons, Inc. One of my tasks was to design a Holiday card for the Management to send out to our clients, like Unilever, General Mills, and the like. So anyway. The card was to say "Happy New Year!", not Merry Christmas or anything that implies religion.

I used an image like that to create the card, except in the image I used, somewhere in the corner, there was a shape that resembled a tree.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9170/istockphoto4632384holidiy1.jpg

The CEO asked me to make that tree disappear. I wanted to smack him into sanity, but I needed that job. To me, THAT was too much, and I'm an advocate for not wishing Jewish people a Merry Christmas or Christians a Happy Hanukkah.

Just an FYI: "Since the fall of the Soviet Union, January 7th became an official national holiday. This is the date of the Russian Orthodox Christmas."

There's a lot of gray in all of our arguments, but I stand by my choice to wish people "Happy Holidays" unless I know for sure which holiday they are celebrating.

Alex
11-27-2007, 12:56 PM
Why offend 90% of Americans who celebrate Christmas so as to not offend a much smaller group?

Actually, it's closer to 80% :wink: (source: wikipedia) BUT, and there is a BUT, it depends A LOT on where you live. If you live in the North East, for example, you're looking at a very different percentage breakdown. New York has a huge Russian (most of whom are Jews), Jewish Orthodox, Muslim, and Hindu population. If you're in Middle America, the numbers change significanly and you're looking at vast majority of people who are Christians.

Anyway.. just keep that in mind.

robkb
11-27-2007, 05:54 PM
:popcorn Here we go again. I can feel it.

JohnG
11-27-2007, 07:12 PM
Happy Solstice!!!

JHenley17
11-27-2007, 07:23 PM
(that's halfway natural) This is AMERICA... you don't like it, then giiit out...

Christmas all the way... if the rest of the world can cater the the majority, why can't we?

Slide
11-28-2007, 08:13 AM
I can't speak for the state of things in the US but up here we're turning into a diverse bunch. Immigration right now tends to be from Middle East/India/China... whereas when we came over 20-ish years ago it was mostly Europeans. Canada is a Christian state and as such (IMO) new Canadians should understand this when they move here regardless of their religious beliefs, so if I inadvertently say "Merry Christmas" there shouldn't be an outcry... pulling of hair or gnashing of teeth. PC in this area has gone a little too far, methinks.

That being said, at work it's "Happy Holidays" and personally it's "Merry Christmas"... even though I feel ridiculous saying "Happy Holidays".

Now was that my 2 cents or was it more like 5?

rndthought
11-28-2007, 09:12 AM
http://www.history.com/genericContent.do?id=53343

VooDooYouDo
11-28-2007, 09:27 AM
It's interesting that anyone would get upset. Whether or not they celebrate christmas, it's meant to be a kind gesture

Do you punch someone in the face when they give you a gift you didn't want? You just accept their intentions and get over it.